Tim Hull wrote:
> Yes, you CAN upgrade individual system components on Debian (or any
> Linux/UNIX), but it's not really that simple, as you can't, for
> instance, download "Debian etch" .debs of Xorg 7.2 (for instance).
>
> Also, with my suggestion with respect to point releases - I don't mean
> backporting *everything* - mainly the components that improve hardware
> support (the kernel,Xorg, etc).  I actually don't mind the current
> Debian release cycle - it's just the fact that often, the release can
> be hard to use on newer hardware.
>
It is a good idea for possibility to install (and to be used during
installation) more recent kernel during installation of stable branch.
Before more than 1 year i could not install Sarge on DELL PowerEdge 
Server due an unsupported SATA RAID controller and i was forced to
install testing -  it was 7 months after Sarge release, but the server
was bought before this date.

>
>
> On 7/27/07, *Kamaraju S Kusumanchi* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>
>     Tim Hull wrote:
>
>     > On a side note, I will say that the one area I think FOSS lags
>     behind
>     > Windows and Mac is in updating individual system components.  I
>     LIKE being
>     > able to update a few things without hackish solutions ( i.e.
>     build from
>     > source tarballs) or updating my whole system. You can do it
>     easily on
>     > Mac/Windows, but it's quite difficult and unreliable on nearly every
>     > distribution.
>
>     IIUC, you are comparing apples and oranges.
>
>     Think of it this way. If the glibc (and certain similar packages)
>     is not
>     upgraded, then installing individual packages is possible even in
>     Linux (be
>     it via stable or via backports). This is the kind of situation you
>     have in
>     windows/mac etc., where the core system is not upgraded (you
>     always run
>     windows XP) and you install additional software on top of it. This
>     is what
>     backports try to do. From your email, I assume you are well aware
>     of its
>     functionality and limitations.
>
>     >  I think Debian really ought to look into making backports
>     > an official project and integrating it into the stable release
>     as a way to
>     > get updates on an as-needed basis.
>
>     Making backports official would be a good idea. However if it
>     delays the
>     release of next stable branch, then I am not a big fan of it.
>
>     > It may even be an interesting idea to do
>     > point releases of stable with some backports included.
>
>     What about security support? Windows/Mac do not provide any
>     security support
>     for all the individual packages that a user installs. Having official
>     backports or point releases as you call it is useless unless there is
>     security support. I think providing security support for all the point
>     releases needs quite a bit of man power.
>
>     hth
>     raju
>
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>     Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
>     http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/
>     http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/
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