On 4/21/07, Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Sat, Apr 21, 2007 at 09:01:58AM -0700, Mark wrote:

1.      Have you read the exim spec document?  Anything that Exim is
        capable of doing should be listed in there somewhere.


Oh yes -  I've been in and out of it - Exim is pretty complex for being so
much simpler than Sendmail. It's a lot of stuff in the main spec document,
and for someone unfamiliar with the philosophy of design, it takes a little
while to get used to the semantics.

Sometimes systems designed to give you the most intimate control can make
doing just the little things difficult, until you manage to get your head
around how someone else was thinking.

2.      Why not just use a better client?  Seriously.  There must be a
        good reason why or you would have.  So, why?


Well, this particular mail client is in a new cell phone operating from
firmware, so the choices are limited, except for throwing it away or
installing some java application that might get it right. And the camera and
sound are too nice to throw it away.

But yes, I had thought to look through the spec. And have managed to find
nothing glaringly obvious, which is not to say it isn't there. I'll have to
wait until the internals sink in a bit further, or come to the decision that
all clients should behave unerringly and without forgiveness. ;)

Interestingly, it took a very long time to even figure out what was going
wrong in the conversation with Exim -- no error messages about failed
authorization were generated from the mostly default configuration. Only a
relaying denied. It took running the beast in debug mode and following the
conversation to learn that it was an authorization failure.

I have to say I like Exim very much so far - it's come a long way since I
tried it last. It's nearly sensible.

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