-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 07:29:09PM +0800, Wei Chen wrote: > Johannes Wiedersich wrote: > > Wei Chen wrote: > >> So it is that based on Debian, people create Ubuntu. Also based on > >> Debian, there is Backports. > > > > No. Ubuntu is based on debian, but not debian, ie. compatibility between > > packages from ubuntu and debian is less than 100%. Packages from > > backports are *for* debian, so apart from human error and possible bugs > > slipping in compatibility is 100%. > > > >> These are all projects that improve desktop users' experience (from what > >> I believe, at least). Is there anything that Debian itself does for this? > > > > Debian evolves all the time, releasing when ready. How can one think > > that this wouldn't improve the users' experience? I regularly use both > > etch and sarge and see a quite large improvement. > > > >> There are examples of successful projects. For the workload/manpower > >> issue, I guess what is needed is a flag. The project is there; people > >> think it is interesting; and then they may try to contribute to it. For > >> example, those above mentioned projects also get enough contributors to > >> work with them. > > > > Correct me, if I am wrong, but IIRC there are more people working for > > debian than for your above mentioned projects. > > > > Debian just has a different focus: support a much larger amount of > > software packages and different architectures; having a 'stable' > > release. If you don't like or need such many packages and don't want or > > need a stable system, you don't need to run debian stable. > > > > Johannes > > > > > Hi, what I mean is neither that Debian is not improving nor that Debian > has less contributors. It is not that having a stable system that > supports a lot of packages and architectures is not good, either. > > What I mean is Debian may consider introducing a sub-project/branch > based on the current main project, dedicating to improve *desktop* > environment. And its development model can refer to those mentioned > projects. > > For more information, please refer to: > http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2007/04/msg00629.html >
Isn't testing stable enough for most desktop users? I know myself I stick with testing as a rolling release (Until they update something big, then I don't upgrade for two to three weeks). Testing offers enough stability to be a desktop distro. Of course, the one thing it is missing is very up to date packages, but that's why the user has options; You have the option to use Debian as a rolling release (Testing/Unstable), you have the option to use Debian by it's release name (Etch/Lenny), or you have the option to not use Debian at all. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGE6y2/o7Q/FCvPe0RAjlGAJwKlb13jT2B8Qepx+GGvhvKEaVi1gCdHEIS Al7+lvf45qpy9upFCuUMFxc= =etrf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
