On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 13:45 +0200, steef wrote: > michael wrote: > > On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 11:36 +0100, michael wrote: > > > >> On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 01:36 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > >> > >>> On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 09:24:03AM +0100, michael wrote: > >>> > >>>> On Wed, 2007-03-28 at 14:39 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 09:30:56PM +0100, michael wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> On Wed, 2007-03-28 at 13:05 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 12:48:19PM +0100, michael wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Wed, 2007-03-28 at 05:37 -0600, Teilhard Knight wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Folks > >>>>>>>>> I've a Creative Sound Blaster Live! 24bit soundcard which I've got > >>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>> work in another Debian 2.6 box but am having problems with another > >>>>>>>>> box, > >>>>>>>>> so all help welcome. Full details are below, but essentially lspci > >>>>>>>>> sees > >>>>>>>>> the card but alsaconf gives firstly: > >>>>>>>>> "No supported PnP or PCI card found. ??? > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> please provide us with relevant output of lspci -vv > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> also, provide the output of > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> lsmod | grep snd > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> As requested: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo lspci -vv;lsmod |grep snd > >>>>>> Password: > >>>>>> {snip} > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 0000:04:05.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy LS > >>>>>> Subsystem: Creative Labs: Unknown device 1006 > >>>>>> > >>>>> ----------------------------------^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > >>>>> > >>>>> it appears the kernel is not recognising your card. do you know which > >>>>> module it requires? you could manually insert the module (modprobe) > >>>>> and then try alsaconf again. If that worked, you'd have to then find > >>>>> out WHY the kernel wasn't identifying the card properly, or why > >>>>> themodule wasn'tbeing inserted (blacklisted perhaps? or maybe not > >>>>> selected in the kernel config). > >>>>> > >>>>> hth > >>>>> > >>>> with the other machines I used, alsaconf inserted the module. also note > >>>> that virtually all my devices are unknown (so nothing should work?!): > >>>> > >>> huh. look at that. mine too... well not so many as you, but still. > >>> > >>> regardless, do you know which module? and can you manually insert it to > >>> see what happens? > >>> > >>> > >> I'm pretty sure it wants the ca0106 but I can't find it > >> (NB this box is 'stable' dist, the other which worked was 'unstable') > >> However am confused as to why we don't need to discover why alsaconf > >> isn't finding card before we worry about modules? > >> > > > > mmm.. maybe the answer is staring me in the face: unstable has a later > > version of ALSA than stable... > > > > so how would I go about installing *just* ALSA from unstable? > > > > > > > hi, > > install the newest alsa-drivers into your kernel from the alsa website.
downloaded alsa-driver-1.0.14rc3.tar but './configure' fails but I don't see why. config.log This file contains any messages produced by compilers while running configure, to aid debugging if configure makes a mistake. It was created by configure, which was generated by GNU Autoconf 2.59. Invocation command line was $ ./configure --with-cards=ca0106 --with-sequencer=yes ## --------- ## ## Platform. ## ## --------- ## hostname = ratty uname -m = i686 uname -r = 2.6.8-3-686-smp uname -s = Linux uname -v = #1 SMP Sat Jul 15 08:52:57 UTC 2006 /usr/bin/uname -p = unknown /bin/uname -X = unknown /bin/arch = i686 /usr/bin/arch -k = unknown /usr/convex/getsysinfo = unknown hostinfo = unknown /bin/machine = unknown /usr/bin/oslevel = unknown /bin/universe = unknown PATH: /usr/local/bin PATH: /usr/bin PATH: /bin PATH: /usr/bin/X11 PATH: /usr/games PATH: /opt/intel/fc/9.0/bin PATH: /opt/intel_cc_80/bin PATH: /usr/local/mpich/bin PATH: /home/michael/bin PATH: /home/mbane/netCDF/netcdf-3.5.1/bin PATH: /usr/local/ncarg/bin ## ----------- ## ## Core tests. ## ## ----------- ## configure:1375: checking for gcc configure:1391: found /usr/bin/gcc configure:1401: result: gcc configure:1645: checking for C compiler version configure:1648: gcc --version </dev/null >&5 gcc (GCC) 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-13) Copyright (C) 2003 Free Software Foundation, Inc. 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