On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 01:17:15PM +0200, Nicolas Kratz wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 11:31:10PM -0600, Jamin W. Collins wrote:
> > Here are the headers on my end from your message, no bounce address header:
> > 
> > Received: (qmail 3670 invoked from network); 6 Jun 2003 05:20:26 -0000
> > Received: from unknown (HELO murphy.debian.org) (146.82.138.6)
> >   by forseti.asgardsrealm.net with SMTP; 6 Jun 2003 05:20:26 -0000
> > Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])
> >         by murphy.debian.org (Postfix) with QMQP
> >         id 30D8C1F58D; Fri,  6 Jun 2003 00:20:20 -0500 (CDT)
> > Old-Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> At least three other places come to mind where the From-bounce header
> should show up (it does here, as well as in mutt):
> 
> - Raw mbox

Here's the complete header for this message, read from my mbox file as
saved by exim:

>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Jun 06 18:08:08 2003
Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Envelope-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=localhost)
        by localhost.localdomain with esmtp (Exim 4.10 #1 (Debian))
        id 19OQIA-00009v-00
        for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Fri, 06 Jun 2003 18:06:38 -0500
Received: from mail.duo-county.com [66.38.0.203]
        by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.9.11)
        for [EMAIL PROTECTED] (single-drop); Fri, 06 Jun 2003 18:06:38 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from psmtp.com (exprod6mx3.postini.com [12.158.35.143])
        by bn0.blue.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h56Bb4Nf003299
        for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 06:37:04 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from source ([146.82.138.6]) by exprod6mx3.postini.com ([12.158.35.251]) 
with SMTP;
        Fri, 06 Jun 2003 04:37:03 PDT
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])
        by murphy.debian.org (Postfix) with QMQP
        id 452A31FE97; Fri,  6 Jun 2003 06:36:00 -0500 (CDT)
Old-Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Received: from balrog (pD9EA4A45.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [217.234.74.69])
        by murphy.debian.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 573601F44E
        for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Fri,  6 Jun 2003 06:17:17 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from nick by balrog with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian))
        id 19OFDf-0005QD-00
        for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Fri, 06 Jun 2003 13:17:15 +0200
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 13:17:15 +0200
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How to unsubscribe?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Mail-Followup-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1;
        protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ew6BAiZeqk4r7MaW"
Content-Disposition: inline
In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i
From: Nicolas Kratz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-40.5 required=4.0
        tests=BAYES_01,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,PGP_SIGNATURE_2,
              QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,
              USER_AGENT_MUTT
        autolearn=ham version=2.53-lists.debian.org_2003_04_28
X-Spam-Level: 
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53-lists.debian.org_2003_04_28 
(1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp)
Resent-Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Mailing-List: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> archive/latest/283452
X-Loop: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Precedence: list
Resent-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Resent-Date: Fri,  6 Jun 2003 06:36:00 -0500 (CDT)
X-pstn-levels:     (C:69.7183 M:97.0282 P:95.9108 R:95.9108 S:60.9736 )
X-pstn-settings: 3 (1.0000:2.0000) pmCr
X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
X-UIDL: '#h!!&,L"!E)o"!giC!!

> - Procmail log
> - MTA log (exim here)

And here's an exim log entry for an email coming from this list:

2003-06-06 18:08:05 19OQJZ-00009v-00 <= [EMAIL PROTECTED] H=localhost.localdomain 
(localhost) [127.0.0.1] P=esmtp S=4315 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> If it's not there, it's really not there.

Well.. from the log entry, especically, you'd think so.

In my case, Exim sorts my mail using ~/.forward..  I'd wondered if Exim
might be rewriting the From header, perhaps in the process of forwarding
the mail, but it would seem that the log entry above would be showing
the bounce=address..

I'm beginning to believe that mine really does come in as
[EMAIL PROTECTED] rather than in the bounce form.


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