Thanks for all of the suggestions.

> "out of date" meaning "not released yesterday".  We are currently without
KDE
> v3 (the files in there are KDE v2).  The maintainer is trying to not deal
with
> KDe v3 until woody is shipped.

Hmm.  I really like KDE3.  And, I thought I saw it in the packages at
http://packages.debian.org/unstable/x11/kde.html.  I guess I was wrong.  I
was confused by the list, but I thought that kdelibs3 were the library files
for the base package (or something like that).

> Sometimes our packages lag behind the bleeding edge.  What we do have
works and
> works well.

That's pretty much what I've heard many times in the past.  For my intended
use, I really want access to bleeding edge packages.  If they turn out to be
unusable, I simply won't use them.

Anybody care to speculate as to when they think Woody will be shipped?  And,
yes, I have read the web page official statement that says that the release
date is nearing but as for a specific date, it will be released when it's
ready.

Darren






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