On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 02:05:16AM -0800, Lukas Latz wrote: > > Of course, when the shiny happy install doesn't work on some esoteric > > hardware you're screwed, but nobody runs _that_ stuff. (or do > > they??) > > > > *sigh* > > About 2 1/2 years ago, I installed Suse on a 1997 Mac clone with a > Formac graphics card. Their acclaimed graphical installer (not X > though) had trouble dealing with the card, so I had to fall back to the > text based installer, which, understandably, they had neglected as > nobody uses it. > Consequently, the keyboard setup (I had a german mac keyboard) didn't > work right. > That kind of thing?
EXACTLY!!! Sorry for yelling, but this whole "debian is hard to install" thing drives me crazy. Call me an elite bastard, but I still feel if debian is too hard to install, you shouldn't be installing it. Mandrake et al exist for a reason. On the other hand, if debian is too staid for you, there are gentoo and slackware and the internet for the roll your own types. See, it's like this: as long as you are using linux I think that's great. I really don't care what color linux you are using (just like I don't really care what shell you use or what kind of beer you drink). I may get pissy if you set up some redhat server disaster and then ask me to maintain it, but if the money is there I'll try to manage it :-) I run debian on sparc hardware as well as i386. I've been using i386 since I was in middle school so being expected to know things like how many keys are on the keyboard and what kind of video chipset I have is not a big shock. Apparently this freaks out a lot of people. It's a good thing those people never tried to get cool games running on DOS. The sparc stuff can get exciting; I'm about a year or two into sparc hardware. It has good points and bad points. You can get a lot of cool stuff on ebay, thus my desktop and server (both running linux). Some code still is a bit dodgy on sparc; some of it will never work due to arch-specific problems. I like that debian runs on several different arches; I can log into lorien (my i386 server) or aglarond (my ultra 60) and for the most part, I see no difference (except the ultra 60 kicks more ass). Commands are the same, file locations are the same ... it's a dream: one that no other *nix I've used comes close to matching. Sorry for the rant. -- Nathan Norman - Incanus Networking mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tell me and I'll forget; show me and I may remember; involve me and I'll understand. -- Chinese Proverb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
