On Monday 12 November 2001 12:52 pm, nate wrote:
> Mark Seven Smith said:
> [..]
>
> > how can I install Debian on my second drive, without
> > having to go through the install procedure (which is
> > incompatible in *text mode* with my video card)?
>
> [..]
>
> > cable modem, ATI Rage 128 video card
>
> i can't imagine an ati rage 128 not working with the
> debian installer. sure it most likely will not work with
> xfree 3.3.6 but the installer is just VGA 16colors. if
> you can see the bios and stuff on the screen as the
> machine boots the installer should work.

Yes, I can see the boot stuff; but even when I d/l the 
"Woody" version of the installer (as per the instructions 
on the www.debian.org site) and try to run that; it still 
has a very peculiar problem: when scrolling through lists, 
sometimes for no reason at all, the entire computer locks 
up--I have to reboot!  I can reboot using the RESET button 
on the computer's case; but I cannot reboot using 
ctrl-alt-delete.

It is so weird; the installer begins, and then I choose the 
keyboard & language & etc. all the usual stuff; although I 
can get the very first screen to bomb the system by 
scrolling one point past the end of the install HELP screen 
(the one that tells about the Debian project).  At the end 
of the screen, there isn't anything to necessarily tell you 
that you cannot scroll any further; and if you hit the 
down-arrow key, or the page-down key, a black line of 
nothing appears horizontally across the screen, as if a 
carriage return had been performed in the lo-res graphics 
(the gray background of the installer display), and there's 
a solid block sometimes, like it is the prompt, yet you 
cannot get it to move at all.

The mouse won't work, and the keyboard keys won't do 
anything; you cannot even switch to another virtual consol 
using control-alt-F1 or anything like that.

I suspected the keyboard; so I switched that out. Still the 
problem persisted.  I suspected the RAM; but diagnostics 
seem to run fine; and I am using the same 256MB right now.

I suspected another peripheral getting in the way; so I 
removed all the cards: the ethernet D-Link card, the 
SoundBlaster card, and the floppy drive, the other hard 
drive; all I had was the CPU, the power supply, the 
motherboard+RAM, the cdrom with the install files, and the 
HD.  Still, the same problems.

I could never get past where the MODULES are chosen; it 
seems that since everything is list-driven, it is 
inevitable I would hit the end of a list and try to scroll 
past the end, no matter how careful I was!  I even took to 
writing down every single item on each list, so that I 
would be able to grab only the things I needed, and never 
scroll past the last item I needed; and still, it would 
bomb, sometimes as soon as I chose something, or when I 
simply hit the down arrow ONCE, in order to retrieve things 
not displayed.

WHY I BELIEVE THE VIDEO CARD IS AT FAULT:
Basically, Red Hat Linux 6.1 also had this problem--I had 
to get RH7.1 (with the newer XFree86 stuff on it) before I 
could install.  I am using RH7.1 right now.

Also, the ATI Rage 128 card is not listed in the hardware 
compatibility list on the Debian site.

It still seems *VERY ODD* that the ATI Rage 128 will not 
work in the lowest of text video compatibility modes.  I 
Suppose this is why the stupid card was foisted on me in 
the first place (I had gone to purchase a different card, 
but was given this one instead, "at a discount", and they 
assured me that it was "fully compatible with Linux"!)  Now 
I read at various places around the web, all the 
difficulties folks have had with the ATI Rage 128 card.

Oh well...!   :-)

So: isn't there a way to perhaps, "put the parts in place", 
the way they do with SlackWare?  I am almost ready to go 
with SlackWare, but I would rather use Debian!

Thanks in advance for any ideas...

--Mark Seven Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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