An interesting (I thought) way of getting rid *temporarily* of KDE for experiments (don't know if it works if you have Gnome installed) is to do a "console login" and then type
xinit Then you get a completely bare-bones X without any form of decoration, with just an xterm in the top-left corner. In this xterm you type fvwm95&, icemwm&, or whatever you like. Of course you can also use icewm as window manager even if you have KDE. This can be selected from the kdm start screen. Then you get some of the pleasure of KDE without the pain (like slow start-up, etc.) Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

