Harry Putnam wrote:
> Hopefully I will already have accumulated enough knowledge and skill
> to do this with minimum help:
> 
> Summary: Beginning with no Debian OS at all, and over the network,
> get a minimal install, and finally a full blown installation of `Sid'.
> 
> -SNIP- <
> I'm a retired heavy construction worker so have plenty of time to
> mess around with stuff I `have no business' with. (hehe).  I like to
> tinker with stuff that is mostly over my head, so in some ways I may
> become quite a pest here over time.
> 
> The description above isn't much of lead into getting help, but it
> probably comes sort of close to describing quite a few posters here,
> maybe mostly in a somewhat younger age group, but still people who
> like to tinker with stuff they don't fully understand. 
> 
> Anyway, what I'm asking for is a general outline  of steps required to
> go from zero to a full install of `sid', over the network.  I'm
> equipped to burn any CDs required.
> 
> 
> 

Hi Harry!

Us "retirees" have to stick to gether <grin>.

The absolute "best" way to get a minimal install that I have found, 
providing you have a fast internet connection (Cable, DSL, T1, etc), is 
to grab some boot-floppies and start from there.  I just did this for 
Debian Woody 2 night ago, and it was quite easy.  It took about an hour 
from finding the proper boot-floppy images on the Debian Archive, to 
writing the images to floppy disks on my end to finalizing the "base" 
install!.  I am using a Cable Modem connection here.  Here are my steps:

1.  Grab a set of bf2.4 boot-floppy images from: 
http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/main/disks-i386/current/images-1.44/.
You will need to get the "rescue.bin", "root.bin", at a minimum, and 
probably should also get the "drivers-1.bin" through "drivers-4.bin" 
just in case.  Put all of these in a common directory.

2. If you are using WinXX to get these files, you will also need to grab 
   rawrite2.exe from: 
http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/main/disks-i386/current/dosutils/. 
  Put this into the same directory as in #1

3.  Get youself 6 floppies and format them (assuming Winders being used) 
and label each one with the file names above.

4.  Go to the directory where you stored the files and start the 
rawrite2.exe program and follow the directions for each file you d/l. 
At the end of this process you should have all the image files you d/l 
on the floppies.  You are now ready to install the base system.

5. Note:  You can do all of the above using Linux and the "dd" command. 
  I have never done this, so you will have to read around the install 
docs to figure this one out.

6.  Set up your computer for the Debian install by making sure it can 
boot from the floppy drive.  I find it convenient to prep the HD by 
creating a swap partition and all the other partitions you might want at 
this point.  You will probably need a minimum of ONE "root" (/) 
partition of at least 2 Gigs.  You can do the partitioning later if you 
want by running either fdisk or cfdisk in a separate terminal after the 
system has booted.  If done now, you will have to have a separate 
boot-floppy that has the partitioning programs on it.  I like the floppy 
version of "parted" for doing this sort of stuff.

7.  Insert the "rescue" disk and boot.  Follow the directions.

8   Insert the "root" disk when asked and hit enter.

9.  When the welcome screen comes up, here is where I would exit to 
another terminal (ctrl-alt-F1) and run the partitioning software (fdisk, 
cfdisk) if you want.  Dunno if you get a chance later on, but it looks 
for partitions to setup pretty quickly after this point.  I have always 
pre-created my partitions before starting the install.

10.  Answer the questions on the screen until you get to the ones about 
installing the kernel and drivers.  One of the choices of source media 
is "network".  If you choose this one, you will be asked to set up your 
network and after a few screens it will begin d/l these from the 
Internet!  If this works, you can put away the "drivers-X" disks.  You 
won't need them.  If it doesn't, then you will have to repeat this and 
choose "floppy" as the source and follow the directions.  This will ask 
you for various disks (rescue, and the drivers-X disks).  Later on you 
will be asked to install the "base" system.  Here again try the 
"network" option.  If it worked before, it will work here.

11.  At the end of this process it will offer to make the HD bootable. I 
recommend you write the lilo image to the MBR of your HD and also tell 
it to add any other OSes it finds.

12.  Reboot (you won't have any choice beyond a certain point).

13.  Answer the next questions as you wish. Towards the end it will 
offer to set up the "root" and "user" accounts, and it will also offer 
to run "tasksel" then "dselect".  If you choose "no" to both of these 
you will have a minimal Woody system installed.

I don't recommend stopping here, though.  I HIGHLY recommend running 
tasksel and getting a functioning Woody system installed.  You will 
probably have to work through some specific Debian "gotchas" like config 
of the printer, sound, X, etc.  It is easier to work through these on a 
"stable" platform, IMHO.  Once you have done this, you can probably 
start the upgrade to SID.  You probably WILL have further problems with 
that jump, IMHO.

To get to SID, all you have to do is edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file 
and change all the instances of "stable" (or woody) to "unstable".  Do 
an "apt-get update" and then do a "apt-get dselect-upgrade" and sit back 
and watch....(probably about 2-4 hours??).

HTH,

-Don Spoon-


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