Jun Sun <[email protected]> 于2019年12月30日周一 上午6:01写道:
>
> Multiarch is the first thing I tried.  It generally works in terms of adding 
> foreign architecture, finding/install packages with proper dependencies, 
> runtime support, linkers and etc.  The only thing seemingly broken is the 
> crossbuild-essential-mipsel, (or build-essential:mipsel, I think), which is 
> needed to develop 32bit in this multiarch environment.  See my earlier email 
> on this.
>

Sorry. My stack is toooo shallow.
build-essential make no sense for normal user at all.
It is used to make sbuild/pbuilder happier.
In fact you should not install crossbuild-essential-* manually at all.


> I think multiarch is the future for debian.  We should get it working on 
> 64bit MIPS.  It does not seem too far to fix it.  From surface, the 
> crossbuild has some unnecessary conflict with native build essential package. 
>  Maybe removing those should be fine?

In fact it is too hard to fix.
For a suggestion, the normal user should choose only on from mutlilib
and multiarch.

For example, if you want to use multiarch, you'd have to purge
multilib packages.

>
> Cheers.
>
> Jun
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 29, 2019 at 4:59 AM YunQiang Su <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> YunQiang Su <[email protected]> 于2019年12月29日周日 下午8:43写道:
>> >
>> > Jun Sun <[email protected]> 于2019年12月29日周日 下午3:33写道:
>> > >
>> > > Thanks for the info, YunQiang.
>> > >
>> > > For simple compiling, I can see "gcc -mabl=32" working well. If we want 
>> > > to port complex project and build in 32 bit, we would need to supply CC, 
>> > > AS, LD, AR, CXX, etc.  Do we just use all the 64bit versions with 
>> > > "-mabi=32"?  For compiling C++ code, what additional package should we 
>> > > install?
>> > >
>> >
>> > If only stdc++ is needed, install g++-multlib is enough.
>> >
>> > If you need more libraries like boost etc, the best choice for you is
>> > to use mipsel port:
>> >
>> > sudo apt install debootstrap systemd-container
>> > sudo debootstrap sid sid-mipsel http://ftp.cn.debian.org/debian  # I
>> > suppose you are in China.
>> > sudo systemd-nspawn -D sid-mipsel
>> >
>> > Or you can have a try of lxc.
>> >
>>
>> there is another way is that maybe you can have a try multiarch:
>>    https://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/HOWTO
>>
>> > > Cheers.
>> > >
>> > > Jun
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 9:28 PM YunQiang Su <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> Jun Sun <[email protected]> 于2019年12月29日周日 上午9:43写道:
>> > >> >
>> > >> > installing g++-mipsel-linux-gnu gives an error below.  Any 
>> > >> > suggestions?  Also, what is the recommended way to set up full 32bit 
>> > >> > dev environment on 64bit host if crossbuild is not the one?
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Jun
>> > >> >
>> > >> > root@debian-mips:/home/debian# apt install g++-mipsel-linux-gnu
>> > >> > Reading package lists... Done
>> > >> > Building dependency tree
>> > >> > Reading state information... Done
>> > >> > Package g++-mipsel-linux-gnu is not available, but is referred to by 
>> > >> > another package.
>> > >> > This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
>> > >> > is only available from another source
>> > >> >
>> > >> > E: Package 'g++-mipsel-linux-gnu' has no installation candidate
>> > >>
>> > >> Ohh, sorry. you are on a mips64el system...
>> > >> We don't have that compiler, while you can just
>> > >>     apt install libc6-dev-mips32
>> > >>     gcc -mabi=32
>> > >>
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> > On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 4:14 PM YunQiang Su <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Jun Sun <[email protected]> 于2019年12月29日周日 上午5:43写道:
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > re-surfacing my own old thread ...
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > On ARM, I was able to do something really simple to obtain 
>> > >> >> > complete 32bit development on a 64bit host:
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > apt install -y build-essential    # this install 64bit dev 
>> > >> >> > environment
>> > >> >> > apt install -y crossbuild-essential-armhf   # this install 32bit 
>> > >> >> > cross-dev environment
>> > >> >> > apt install -y libc6:armhf
>> > >> >> > apt install -y libstdc++6:armhf
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> yep. we don't have the crossbuild-essential-mipsel package.
>> > >> >> While for normal user, it is not useful at all.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> crossbuild-essential-armhf depends on g++-arm-linux-gnueabihf &&
>> > >> >> gcc-arm-linux-gnueabihf
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> So, you can do the same thing just by
>> > >> >>    apt install g++-mipsel-linux-gnu   # gcc-mipsel-linux-gnu is not
>> > >> >> needed, since g++ depeds on gcc.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > However, similar steps don't work on mips64.  Specifically it is 
>> > >> >> > apparent  crossbuild-essential-mipsel dependency is broken, and if 
>> > >> >> > you try to fix the dependencies and it ended up conflicting with 
>> > >> >> > build-essential.
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > Are there more better way to install a complete 32bit dev 
>> > >> >> > environment than what is mentioned earlier in this thread?
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > Thanks!
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > Jun
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > On Sun, May 19, 2019 at 9:10 PM Jun Sun <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> This is very cool!  It worked!  Thanks.
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> For a complete record here is what I did:
>> > >> >> >>>
>> > >> >> >>> dpkg --add-architecture mipsel
>> > >> >> >>>
>> > >> >> >>> apt-get update
>> > >> >> >>>
>> > >> >> >>> apt-get install gcc-multilib
>> > >> >> >>>
>> > >> >> >>>
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> Earlier I was using "-m32" option which was not recognized. but  
>> > >> >> >> -march=mips32 -mabi=32 worked just fine.
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> Also, just for the record, if one likes to install 32bit library 
>> > >> >> >> later, you would just add ":mipsel" to the package name.  For 
>> > >> >> >> example, you would do "apt install zlib1g:mipsel" to install 
>> > >> >> >> 32bit version of zlib.
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> Cheers.
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> Jun
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> On Sun, May 19, 2019 at 5:55 PM YunQiang Su <[email protected]> 
>> > >> >> >> wrote:
>> > >> >> >>>
>> > >> >> >>> Jun Sun <[email protected]> 于2019年5月20日周一 上午7:42写道:
>> > >> >> >>> >
>> > >> >> >>> > Recently I came across a piece of great work by blahcat who 
>> > >> >> >>> > created 64bit MIPSEL debian image that runs on qemu.  See  
>> > >> >> >>> > https://blahcat.github.io/2017/07/14/building-a-debian-stretch-qemu-image-for-mipsel/
>> > >> >> >>> >
>> > >> >> >>> > I tried to install multilib in the hope to compile 32bit mips 
>> > >> >> >>> > code on this 64bit machine.  But it does not seem to work.
>> > >> >> >>> >
>> > >> >> >>> how did you install it?
>> > >> >> >>> it should be done like:
>> > >> >> >>>
>> > >> >> >>> apt-get install libc6-dev-mips32 gcc
>> > >> >> >>>    and
>> > >> >> >>> gcc -march=mips32 -mabi=32 xx.c
>> > >> >> >>>
>> > >> >> >>> If your app needs libc only, it is enough.
>> > >> >> >>>
>> > >> >> >>> > Does anybody know for sure whether this is a dead end or just 
>> > >> >> >>> > a hiccup which I should overcome?
>> > >> >> >>>
>> > >> >> >>> If your app depends on more libraries, you may need to use an 
>> > >> >> >>> mipsel
>> > >> >> >>> env, or use multiarch.
>> > >> >> >>> https://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/HOWTO
>> > >> >> >>>
>> > >> >> >>> >
>> > >> >> >>> > Thanks.
>> > >> >> >>> >
>> > >> >> >>> > Jun
>> > >> >> >>>
>> > >> >> >>>
>> > >> >> >>>
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