ACTUAL SOLUTION =============== 1. We close #1109165 #1109167 (and #1109166)
2. We create RC bugs targeting forky, to review and clean up the packages 3. DPL and/or Release teams are warmly invited to publicly reply to this email and say whether they accept this solution or not. I signed a thing that said "we do not hide problems" so I warmly invite everyone to stop emailing me in private. If you can't say it in public then don't say it. 4. Debian can either trust the maintainer's judgment on what crosses the line, or produce a detailed document. If we want to produce a detailed document, it needs to be publicly discussed and voted on, before forky. WHY === The issues are very very very obviously not RC issues if they have been there for 22 years without anyone noticing. I agree that the things crossing the line must be removed, but there are many and there is no urgency. One must go out of their way to see things from the -off package. And popcon is really low. This has been handled very poorly. DPL delegates have happily abused their position and have refused any discussion. As I understand the role of the community team is to mediate, so ignoring emails is the exact opposite of what the mandate of the team is. It has been suggested to me that this is all a diversion from the drama that happened at the debconf and that was hinted on -private. I have no clue about any of that. I am clearly not a member of any inner circle, and this is just a speculation. FUTURE CHANGES ARE NEEDED ========================= Really, we need proper rules and procedures for the community team and more transparency. Replying to emails in a civil way rather than directly privately contacting other teams to enforce their decisions would be a good start :) Best -- Salvo Tomaselli I difensori della morale tradizionale sono raramente persone di cuore. Si è tentati di pensare che essi si servano della morale come di legittimo sfogo al loro desiderio di fare del male agli altri. -- Bertrand Russell, Perché non sono cristiano. 1957 https://ltworf.codeberg.page/