Santiago Vila <sanv...@debian.org> (2025-05-17): > El 17/5/25 a las 1:13, Cyril Brulebois escribió: > > Soren Stoutner <so...@debian.org> (2025-05-05): > > > Filing these bug reports sounds like a good idea to me. I don’t see > > > any reason to wait as these will be severity:minor, so they won’t > > > interfere with the trixie release. > > > > Filing now can trigger uploads to fix those minor bugs, meaning packages > > that absolutely do not meet requirements for freeze exceptions end up in > > unstable. Depending on circumstances, they might make migrations of other > > packages more complicated than they need to be. > > > > (I'll refrain from naming a particular example, but I'm aware of one of > > those without even searching for it, it just happened to show up on one of > > my specific “important for the release” radars…) > > Hi. Discussing about the right time to report those bugs does not make > much sense anymore, because Lucas already reported them :-)
Given I mentioned spotting a resulting upload, it should be pretty clear that I do know that has happened. It seemed important to me to reply to the “I don't see any reason to wait” part (which I quoted, and kept above just in case), so that people might take that in consideration next time they want to MBF that late in the freeze. > Now we can only expect maintainers to act responsibly, and as you > point out, be particularly careful about not affecting other packages. The example I was alluding to builds a udeb, and is therefore very much not something like a leaf package one can easily pretend doesn't exist. > I think the idea of reporting them now was more about letting the bugs > to be known "soon", more than starting to fix them "soon". Now we can > forward the bugs upstream and some of the fixes will be present in the > new upstream releases that we will start to upload after the release. I didn't challenge any reasons *for* filing. I'm giving a reason *not to*, in reply to someone who said wasn't seeing any. Also, as a random maintainer, despite the “Severity: minor”, seeing piles of FTBFS bug reports pop up all of a sudden in my maildir right before entering hard freeze does not bring any kind of warm, cozy feeling. Distraction and worry isn't quite something I enjoy. YMMV. Cheers, -- Cyril Brulebois (k...@debian.org) <https://debamax.com/> D-I release manager -- Release team member -- Freelance Consultant
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