Richard Laager <rlaa...@debian.org> writes:

> As I have said before: I think that computer programmers have a
> tendency to treat licenses as if they are self-executing (and precise
> like software).

Agreed, this is often a challenge when technical people discuss legal
matters, and it helps to keep this in mind.

> From what I can tell, the legal system does not operate that way, and
> actual lawyers make distinctions based on harm/damages or lack
> thereof.

My experience with lawyers is that circumstances, expectations and
intentions are more relevant than damages.  Damages are more relevant
when assessing compensation, not when deciding who is right.

If someone has a claim to something and reasonable can expect certain
things in a situation, and that is violated, there is a legal case even
if you can make a technical argument that the person is wrong citing
various paragraphs in return.  This is often frustrating for technical
people, feeling they are "right" and that circumstances doesn't matter.

> I think Debian should take the position that Apache-2.0 and
> GPL-2.0-only are compatible in practice.

I don't think that is a good position to be in.  I believe it would be
better to work with rights holders to work out problems rather than to
ignore requests and throw legal arguments at them.

/Simon

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