> On 13 Sep 2019, at 12:25, Marco d'Itri <m...@linux.it> wrote:
> 
> We are talking about preventing large scale censorship (I do not think 
> that this is really about privacy) for *general users*: obviously *we* 
> already know about countless workarounds.

That’s a false statement. Right now, we are talking about sending _all_ your 
queries from
just **one** application - Mozilla Firefox.  And what’s worse - if we are 
talking about protecting
the users, it could lead to a false sense of protection - any other application 
in the system
will send the DNS queries through stub resolver (e.g. most probably to whatever 
the system
gets from the DHCP).

Again, please note, I am not advocating against DoH or DoT, I just think we 
need to do
a better job to protect our users than blindly following Mozilla’s lead by 
enabling it by default
without explicit user consent.

BTW there’s a new initiative - Encrypted DNS and if you look closely, ISC is on 
the list of
participants from the very beginning.  There’s no doubt that we need to encrypt 
DNS, but
in a way that won’t lead to every app sending it’s DNS queries to a different 
resolver.

Ondrej
--
Ondřej Surý
ond...@sury.org

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