>>>>> "Bernd" == Bernd Zeimetz <be...@bzed.de> writes:
Bernd> On 2019-08-26 23:41, Sam Hartman wrote: >> I don't think you're part of our consensus. Bernd> Yes, that might be very true. But what you describe by "our Bernd> consensus" is the opinion of a few people who actually read Bernd> this mailinglist regularily and consider to reply. I really Bernd> hope that you do not consider this "consensus" as the opinion Bernd> of the Debian project. It is the opinion of 10-20 random Bernd> people, nothing more. I am not in agreement with the above. First, this work was discussed in the DPL campaign, in every bits from the DPL mail I've published, in my keynote, in several sessions at DebConf, and heavily in the DebConf hallway track. I think that most active members of the project are aware the discussion is going on. More over, debian-devel is the list where we have such conversations. Also, I've been saying it was happening on debian-devel. I know people have joined or started following debian-devel again to follow this conversation. So, given that we've made an appropriate effort to inform people, this is the discussion amongst the people who care about the issue enough to join a discussion. Also, one of the assumptions about consensus discussions is that many more people are reading than contributing. But if those people disagree strongly enough they'll speak up. So, we have: * The active support of say 10 people. * We have fairly confidence that members of debian-devel (the list) have researched these issues enough to have an informed opinion. * We'll eventually get to a point where few people disagree with my summary enough to comment on it. * No one disagrees enough to start a GR process. If we really get this wrong here it only takes 6 to make a very loud statement that we need to consider more deeply. And assuming that none of the things that invalidates a consensus process happens like driving people away or bullying, then yeah, for this discussion, I think we do have a project level consensus. --Sam