On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 03:38:24PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > As the maintainer of the pam package in Debian, I assure you: this is a bug > in dirmngr. System services should not (must not) call interfaces that > launch pam sessions as part of their init scripts. su is one of those > interfaces.
I trust you to be technically right on this. Still the number of packages getting this wrong is stunning[1]. Therefore I'd argue that this is not solely a problem to be solved in individual packages. It is not the first time we are facing this kind of breakage. A very similar case recently happened when shells of system users were switched to nologin. It broke quite a few packages, still that change was accomplished and the offending packages (at least most of them) were fixed. Can we please have a MBF on this issue, fix the packages and have systemd gain Breaks for all the packages it highlights this bug on? And until systemd has the relevant Breaks, it should have a transition-blocker RC bug. We do have procedures for these kinds of things. Thanks Helmut [1] http://codesearch.debian.net/search?q=su+-c+path%3Adebian%2F+path%3Ainit Apparently the query misses more results such as http://sources.debian.net/src/ejabberd/2.1.11-1/debian/init.d http://sources.debian.net/src/fetchmail/6.3.26-1/debian/init http://sources.debian.net/src/nvi/1.81.6-11/debian/init Very likely there is more. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140511173734.ga14...@alf.mars
