Hi Martin, hi all, > being told "Go away" just doesn´t match the responsibility for dealing with > issues with something that is a default for all users who don´t change it.
Indeed, and that is the feeling all around. Systemd developers often (by default?) tell people to go away - you don't have commit rights. I mentioned this before, here on the list, and elsewhere [1]. Is this the upstream we as Debian want to work with? It seems yes, because the responsible Debian developers for this piece of software behave the same way - go away. I mentioned this before in a G+ discussion [2] - devs of programs high up in the dependency chain (i.e., not leafs like editors etc) have a higher responsibility. Unfortunately neither systemd upstream, in particular L. Poettering and K. Sievers, nor the Debian devs seem to have grasped the far-reaching responsabilities they have taken over. That said, I have to exclude (at least) *one* member of the systemd dev team, Tom Gundersen, who has answered in proper ways, explaining problems, and pro-actively taking action. Big hurray to him. Norbert [1] https://www.preining.info/blog/2014/04/debian-systemd-heading-abyss/ [2] https://plus.google.com/u/0/115547683951727699051/posts/VYRaUuh1tkt ------------------------------------------------------------------------ PREINING, Norbert http://www.preining.info JAIST, Japan TeX Live & Debian Developer GPG: 0x860CDC13 fp: F7D8 A928 26E3 16A1 9FA0 ACF0 6CAC A448 860C DC13 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140510122130.gu8...@auth.logic.tuwien.ac.at
