Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez <clo...@igalia.com> writes: > On 28/10/13 20:14, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote:
>> For those who haven't seen it, Lennart has posted some of his comments >> about all this on G+: >> https://plus.google.com/u/0/115547683951727699051/posts/8RmiAQsW9qf > And here is the reply from Gentoo developer Patrick Lauer: > http://gentooexperimental.org/~patrick/weblog/archives/2013-10.html#e2013-10-29T13_39_32.txt This, sadly, was not particularly useful or interesting. As near as I can tell, the core content was that he doesn't think cgroup management is particularly difficult (fine, but I don't think that was the point; the point, instead, was that it's important to have a single arbitrator, which if true poses specific technical challenges) and he believes that the components to systemd would be easy to implement as separate daemons if they were properly documented. I'm one of those people who thinks that nearly everything in Linux is horribly underdocumented, so I'm not going to argue with that point, but it's not a very useful statement from a practical viewpoint. systemd offers specific pieces of integrated functionality. By and large, no one seems to question that the operations enabled by that functionality are useful (although there is some debate over how useful). GNOME is not depending on systemd out of some nefarious plot. It's depending on systemd because GNOME wants to use those pieces of functionality systemd provides. Therefore, I think it's important for arguments against using systemd to somehow engage directly with the questions about functionality. Either there needs to be an argument that the functionality is not important and can be done without (which raises questions about how one would build GNOME in such an environment), or there needs to be some sort of plan for how equivalent functionality to systemd will be provided. -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87habzllcb....@windlord.stanford.edu
