hi,
2013/6/5 John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de> > > On 06/05/2013 02:39 PM, Bjoern Meier wrote: >> >> 2013/6/5 Florian Lohoff <f...@zz.de <mailto:f...@zz.de>> >> >> >> >> For me wheezy is the worst of all Debian release i have been >> using since bo. >> >> >> /signed >> >> Just one example to add to flo's > > > Really? I think it's one of the best releases ever. Multi-Arch alone is > worth the upgrade. And you can't blame Debian for GNOME3, this was > a decision made upstream. Uh uh, yeah, my users are so excited about multi-arch. Upstream who? Who made this decision? "Debian is a free operating system (OS) for your computer." So gnome said Debian had to use GNOME3 for default? Interesting. Until Wheezy I was convinced that Debian was a rock stable OS. Well, so it is yet, because the use of GNOME3 has a stony habit. > In fact, Debian has always been one of the distributions which tries > to keep (bad ?) design decisions from upstream away from its users. yes, "it has always been". As we said. >> the upgrade from squeeze to wheezy, was not a clean one. >> I've had to install a package (some lib-gd-annoying.deb), that wasn't >> installed before and wasn't able to install because of some unresolved >> debs. > > > Honestly, what do you expect. It's simply impossible to always guarantee > a perfect upgrade from one release to another. You aren't just upgrading > the core of the operating system, but a huge set of user applications. Of course, you're right. If i had a "side-show" setting, I've nothing to say. But I think Apache and PHP should have tested which a widely range of users. I was also confused, because I could really find fast a workkaround. So, there was no reason, that this wasn't fixed on release. > Plus, I would have honestly appreciated that if more people (especially > the ones who complain now) would have helped in finding and smashing > RC bugs during the Wheezy freeze. In fact, many the RC bugs were > related to Squeeze-to-Wheezy upgrade issues. I've done a few. Especially on Samba, but I rembered there was a bug, which was fixed on upstream, could be fixed in debian and was found again on a upgrade (just in debian; not upstream). So yeah, I've been also through some pain and don't just rant here. Greetings, Björn -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAGMPS57yL1UiXCh1HeWFX-=gykv+l2mm8w-fzcy5psy_djg...@mail.gmail.com