On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 4:00 AM, Svante Signell <svante.sign...@telia.com> wrote: > On Sun, 2012-02-26 at 21:03 +0200, Uoti Urpala wrote: >> On Sun, 2012-02-26 at 17:36 +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> > Uoti Urpala <uoti.urp...@pp1.inet.fi> writes: > >> I don't think it's an accident that this discussion came up in >> the context of kFreeBSD. Extra hardware architectures typically require >> a lot less effort than extra software platforms. I think it is quite >> realistic to support extra hardware architectures without adding undue >> burden on people not using them. It's a lot less realistic or reasonable >> in the kFreeBSD case. > > Of course supporting additional hardware architectures under Linux is > simpler than supporting other software platforms. However, the main issue > is:w hy > does Debian exist and who is Debian aiming their releases for. This is > definitely a policy decision to make. > >> > > It's definitely arrogant for users of other operating systems to try to >> > > obstruct people from using better technology on Linux. It's not like >> > > there would be anything equaling the quality of systemd that would run >> > > on BSD. It's not your place to say that people shouldn't get to use it >> > > on Linux, or that Linux users should have to work on BSD support to be >> > > allowed to use it now. >> > >> > It is equaly arrogant to say that people must use it on Linux and screw >> > BSD users. >> >> You see no difference between "group A chooses to use what's good for >> group A" and "small group B tells group A that they must use what B >> prefers"? > > Of course group A can choose what's good for group A. But there are > consequences of doing that for Debian as a whole. And what are your > alternatives for group A, systemd and upstart seems to be equally > screwed, and not providing much improvement compared to sysvinit. For > example, where is your rescue shell if something goes wrong? > >> There's no obligation for Linux users to keep supporting BSD, any more >> than there's an obligation to support Linux kernel version 1, MSWindows >> or OS/2. Yes, there are still users asking for OS/2 support too. > > The main question is: For who's interest should Debian exist, the > upstream authors, the Debian maintainers or the users? My vote is on the > latter :) > The really question is that for which group of users?
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