On 20/12/11 at 23:16 +0000, brian m. carlson wrote: > On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 09:36:47PM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > On 20/12/11 at 22:01 +0200, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > > > With recent dpkg(-source) changes, many packages are again failing to > > > build twice in a row, because of uncommitted upstream changes. Fixing > > > this was a lenny release goal, maybe it should be one again?!? Most > > > importantly, maybe someone who has access to one of those build grids > > > can run the old tests again, because I feel by accidentally stumbling > > > upon these problems we will not be able to find and fix many of them any > > > time soon. > > > > Is it really worth it? There are many ways to work-around this, such as > > using a temporary git repo to be able to 'git clean' and return to a > > clean state before each build. > > If I'm fixing an RC bug, it's very convenient to be able to test a patch > and then rebuild with a different patch if necessary. If the package > doesn't build cleanly N times in a row, or if there are other problems > with the packaging that make it difficult to fix, I usually go on to fix > other bugs instead. Also, when I file a bug report, the harder you make > it to fix your package, the less likely you are to receive a patch with > that report, workaround or not.
I'm not saying that it's not convenient. But on the other hand, several hundreds of packages probably need to be fixed, which will require a large amount of manpower that could be used instead to fix problems affecting our users. Maybe it's better to fix those bugs when they are encountered, rather than have a systematic effort to fix them all? If you are interested into mass bug filing about issues that affect our users, see http://lists.debian.org/debian-qa/2011/08/msg00091.html for a list of 1073 packages failing to install, remove, or upgrade from squeeze. Lucas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111221094135.ga14...@xanadu.blop.info