On 06/06/2011 10:16 AM, Guillem Jover wrote: > Hi! > > On Sun, 2011-04-17 at 11:20:07 +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: >> On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 04:18:34PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: >>>> The main decision which needs to be made is whether, as a project, we >>>> want source only uploads or to throw away DD built non-all debs. >>>> There's not entire agreement amongst the ftpmasters about this (I err >>>> on the side of the source-only uploads to avoid making people waste >>>> time and bandwidth but that's not the only opinion). >>> <snip> >>>> Once a decision is made, implementation is easy, but I'd like some >>>> form of consensus before we go down that route. >> >> Further round of update on this one, after some more discussion on list >> and a brief chat of mine with Mark. >> >> - There seems to be consensus to go ahead with throw-away debs; they >> require a bit of work though so either be patient or, better, >> volunteer with FTP masters to help out with the implementation of the >> remaining bits. > > I think this was mentioned in some previous incarnation of this > discussion, but throwing away debs unconditionally, or at least w/o > having a way to specify they must not be thrown away is going to be > an issue when bootstrapping packages. Those cases where we have > a cyclic build dependency chain, which is not uncommon: > > 1) Some compilers written in the same language they target. > 2) Build tools: pkg-config Build-Depends on libglib2.0-dev, > libglib2.0-dev Build-Depends on pkg-config. pkg-config used to > bundle an ancient glib 1.x to be able to automatically bootstrap > but that was removed with some recent upstream release. > 3) IDL generators: mig Build-Depends on gnumach-dev, gnumach > Build-Depends on mig. > 4) ... > > Having to request ftp-masters each time one of these is first > bootstrapped anew on an architecture is going to be annoying, both > for the porter/packager and for the ftp-masters.
Are you saying they cannot be bootstrapped with older versions (which are already in the archive)??! Cheers Luk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ded107b.3050...@debian.org
