On Sun, 26 Apr 2009, Luk Claes wrote:
> Simon Josefsson wrote:
> > Michal ?iha? <ni...@debian.org> writes:
> >> Dne Sat, 25 Apr 2009 07:10:24 +0300
> >> Peter Eisentraut <pete...@gmx.net> napsal(a):
> >>
> >>> Like lintian, your list falsely includes packages that use cdbs to build,
> >>> which automatically updates config.{sub,guess}.
> >> If you don't build depend on autotools-dev, nothing can be updated (at
> >> least it was case for my package which uses dh).
> >
> > Speaking of autotools-dev, that package seems somewhat outdated.
> > Upstream config.{sub,guess} is newer than what's in autotools-dev, for
> > example, and the /usr/share/doc/autotools-dev/README.Debian.gz
> > documentation does not accurately describe modern autotools.
>
> Putting the maintainer explicitly in the loop. It seems the maintainer
> is still tracking the cvs version while upstream changed to a git
> repository:
>
> http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/config.git
That would be me. Are there any interesting changes for Debian in the
updated config.sub/guess from upstream when compared to what is already in
autotools-dev? If so, I will expedite a new autotools-dev release.
> > I don't think overriding config.{sub,guess} in debian packaging is the
> > right solution without forwarding the problem report upstream. It is
> > not a debian specific problem.
>
> Right.
I believe it is _already_ common knowledge that the best practice to be
adopted by Debian maintainers now is to track every divergence from upstream
as a bug that we should do our best to fix, no? This was one of the
important lessons learned from the OpenSSL nightmare.
That does not mean we can't fix the build engines if they are causing
trouble for us, this is very different from touching the code itself, and
you will find many upstream maintainers look at the built structure as
something filthy that they don't care for nor want to deal with as long as
it is working on their favourite development platform, and producing code
that builds reasonably well on the two or three most used arches
:-(
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Henrique Holschuh
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