* 31-07-2007, Marc Haber: > On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 19:09:10 +0000 (UTC), Oleg Verych > >>- adduser is 48k of "unreadable perl mess" > > As former maintainer of adduser, I take offense here. Adduser has > improved a lot in readability in the last three years.
This is a funny quote i've get from the `bts' command sources. ____ * Debian Development List. Seriously, after reading all that shell and apt threads, i wonder if all that size thing really matters? Install 4G of Vista++ and be stupidly happy. I thought, it's a good thing to have size concerns in the first place. It's even matter of taste, not only technical problems with disks/filesystems speed. In order. * adduser is the 48k wrapper around passwd (hope you've read that earlier); man page says, low level `user*' command should not be used. WTF? To remove or add ordinary user _once_ in first installation, i must carry this crap all along? Sorry, guys. I'd better try to fix install scripts of cron, mutt, exim-daemon-light, openssh-*. I'm sure nothing extra ordinary happens there. * same song in bash's man page: no clear line between its features and Bourne Shell requirements. The long standing bug -- size and speed has kind place in that man page. And after all that, everybody write `#!/bin/sh' and hope it's a good shell scripting, while it turns to a very bash specific script, that will run 2-3 times slower. * apt-get's man page states, that apt-get is the command line tool and is a "back-end". If quoted word there is humor, then remove it or leave default behavior as is. Very disappointing things, that can really be offensive. Because you think it's good an optimized process of being better and better, but nope. There are agendas (tiding to GNU bash), laziness (try lightweight useradd/userdel in once-run branch in install scripts first) and other non technical problems. I don't know (yet) all policies on how to package, but one thing i see: there's no way to supply options to install scripts, so admin/user can just blindly run installation/upgrade. Debconf is another sort of design/size issues, i have. -- -o--=O`C #oo'L O <___=E M -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
