Le mercredi 25 juillet 2007 à 08:54 -0400, Marvin Renich a écrit : > Gnome and KDE are targeted primarily at desktop users, not servers. If, > as a desktop user, I install a graphical app on my machine, I *expect* > to see that app in the main menu. The place where I put important > and/or frequently used apps is on a panel/toolbar.
Do you expect to see console applications in the menu as well? All interpreters and shells? Window managers? > If a novice user installs an app and then goes to the menu and doesn't > find it, how is this user supposed to know what to do? This bit is correct: someone installing an app can reasonably expect to see it in the menu. However you are drawing wrong conclusions: > This is > completely *un*usable. The more novice the user, the more important it > is for the *default* to be for all graphical apps to be shown. Then let > the individual user decide which ones are important to him/her. If the users installs the distribution with default settings or starts a session on a multi-user setup, he should find a usable menu, not a menu with all possible applications he never wanted to install. > Menus, by their nature, are inherently unusable for the most frequently > used apps, and we should not be trying to make them more usable at the > expense of making less frequently used apps harder to access. Why shouldn't we attempt to make menus usable? > Menus make less frequently used apps easy to get at, while toolbars make > frequently used apps even easier; use the right tool for the right job. Guess what, toolbars are not used by a good share of users. Toolbars sound obvious for experienced users, but a novice will never have the idea to modify the interface that is shown to him; which is why this interface must be as straightforward as possible - and that also includes good default shortcuts in the toolbar. -- .''`. : :' : We are debian.org. Lower your prices, surrender your code. `. `' We will add your hardware and software distinctiveness to `- our own. Resistance is futile.