On 04/09/07 05:20:34PM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote: > On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 08:14:50PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote: > > You forgot the "+PAE" part. > > PAE helps the OS, not the applications. Applications still only get > 32bit. Well unless the OS starts doing something weird, and it would > then require applications written explictly for some memory access > extensions. >
AWE is the Windows userland counterpart to PAE, it lets processes allocate up to 64G of memory and shift around a mapping "window" so that they can access memory that wouldn't normally fit into their address space. > > They do that already, but it doesn't work for a lot of hardware: > > > > - old hardware that was already sold, and for which the vendor may not > > even > > exist anymore. > > - hardware from small vendors that can't afford the cost of certification. > > I thought they had started only allowing certified drivers to even > install. > On the 64-bit editions, yes you can only install signed drivers but I believe the 32-bit versions are more liberal and let you install whatever you want. And there is a bootup option to disable the requirement on the 64-bit release but I believe you have to do it on every boot so it's a bit of a PITA. > > It doesn't really matter. If we win the 64bit battle, when microsoft wants > > to > > migrate to 64-bit, they'll find that this niche is already occupied, and > > that > > the reference API is another one. Then they can clone us if they want to > > try > > something :-) > > Well I think users of applications like solidworks, lightwave, maya, > etc, just might use win64 and be quite happy with it. Not a huge > market, but not nothing either. I doubt this will be small enough that > linux can automatically win the 64bit OS market. And if people start > demanding 64bit support they will find a way to get a machien that does > work with 64bit windows and get the applications they want. > And don't forget games. Game developers will start releasing 64-bit binaries and gamers will eat them up just because 64 > 32. So the Win64 market will have a fair amount of users in the not too distant future. > > We'll surely have that for lenny. :-) > > Much as I tend to be optimistic, I am not so sure about that. > I tend to agree although I would love to be wrong. Jim. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]