On Wed, 15 Feb 2006, Jari Aalto wrote:
> Not so fast. If the light weight system is to be kept as small as
> possible, the additional tcl/Tk libraries would not be welcomed.

You won't be able to stay away from tcl/tk for too long if you want GUIs,
but I see your point.

> GTK at least is common to most of the C programs that do not bring
> along other libraries.

No. It is common to a lot of *GUI* C programs nowadays.

> The programs talks directly to SMTP, so there is no need to require
> a MTA in the system.

There are MTAs that do little else than that, but they do it properly. And a
proper unix system needs a working /sbin/sendmail that sends mail.  A system
without a /sbin/sendmail is quite broken, a lot of stuff won't be able to
send mail notifications, etc.

So I don't buy this argument.  Reimplementing the wheel and doing it badly
is not good form, and it is an anti-unix way of life :-)

The goal (a GUI that lets the user send email) can be equally met (using GTK
even) by running sendmail to do the mail sending.

> Upstream is interested in getting the program in better shape based on
> the malloc-discussion here.

I'd *highly* suggest that he read fully all SMTP and ESMTP-related RFCs, and
make sure he understands the BNF grammar completely, and that he correctly
implements all MUST requirements.

But really, if I were writing this, I'd just write the x-based form (using
whatever toolkit I deemed best), and call /sbin/sendmail to do the ESMTP
talking.

-- 
  "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring
  them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond
  where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot
  Henrique Holschuh


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