On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 11:47:53AM -0200, Gustavo Franco wrote: > On 1/11/06, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Of course people can do this, but this is so very much not the point. The > > point is that publishing source packages on a website that people have to > > poll is not "giving back to Debian", and AFAICT the majority of changes > > Ubuntu makes to packages are only made available to Debian in this format. > > This includes many changes in Ubuntu's universe section[1] which I think > > it's > > bad strategy to be making externally to Debian in the first place if > > they're serious about limiting divergence from Debian. > > I agree with the poll thing, but the 'giving back to Debian' applies > when you think about things like xorg (David even wrote it), gksu > (kov), pkg-ltsp, some other transitions and i'm sure that someone can > came up with a better list than me.
Perhaps I was unclear in my previous post. What I said wasn't that Canonical was going out of their way as a company to give back to Debian. What I said was that Daniel and I established a personal and working relationship that allowed us to bring the changes back in to Debian. Fundamentally, I had to do the exact same thing for xorg as anyone else had to do for patches to their packages. I downloaded the sources to the breezy(?) packages, looked through each and every packaging file and diff'ed it against our xfree86 packages, and applied what I wanted. What Daniel did was be there for me to ask questions of, compare notes, and occasionally offer fixes when he had the time. As far as I know this wasn't any corporate decision by Canonical to give back to Debian, but it was a personal decision by Daniel to help me (for which I'm immensely grateful). The greatest strength of having Canonical on our side, from my POV, is that it's a company full of people like Daniel, who are fundamentally Debian people, and who are willing to work with you on this kind of personal level. I don't really buy in to their whole "giving back to Debian" thing (because they didn't really "give back" xorg, I had to take it after they made it for themselves) but they do present a great opportunity for us to establish these kinds of working relationships. - David Nusinow -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
