* Stephen Birch | Tollef Fog Heen([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2005-05-31 18:06: | > * Stephen Birch | > | > | The project seems to have established a mechanism for putting new | > | packeges directly into Ubuntu. Are new Ubuntu packages also put in | > | Debian by the Ubuntu team members? | > | > Yes.
Sorry, I originally misread your question. They aren't necessarily put in Debian, but they may be. It depends on whether the person uploading to Ubuntu is also a DD or has a Debian sponsor. | Let me give you an example. I filed an ITP this morning on a | promising package called wifi-radar. | | After writing the ITP I discovered someone has already built a deb for | Ubuntu and placed it on the Ubuntu wiki. But they did not file an | ITP. | | Normal debian etiquette identifies the maintainer of a new package as | the first person to file an ITP. So how is this coordinated with | Ubuntu? It's not coordinated per se, but this isn't a problem either. If the version in Ubuntu is modified from the version in Debian, they won't be synced automatically. If you want to work with the maintainer in Ubuntu -- that's great and the result will hopefully be even better. | Unless I missed the ITP and filed a double by mistake we appear to | have two independent wifi-radar maintainers now. The Ubuntu one and | the debian one. In this instance there isnt an issue, I just want to | see the software packaged and I'll happily yeald to the other | maintainer if he/she wants. But I can see the possibility of a | conflict in future when this happens with other packages. If the person maintaining the Ubuntu version wants to make some changes and those aren't accepted by Debian, it's just a forked package with no harm done (except for any wasted effort). | > | Also, when Ubuntu makes improvements to packages how do those | > | improvements flow back to Debian? | > | > Patches to bugs, debian maintainers picking up the patches from the | > patch repository, inter-team communication. It depends. | | Still looks more like a fork than a derivative ..... or a spoon :-) It's both and not. I think of a fork as «we want to do this differently and we're not going to “waste” effort getting stuff merged again». Ubuntu isn't that; Ubuntu is trying to get the changes back into Debian so they don't have to maintain their own versions forever. -- Tollef Fog Heen ,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `-