On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 05:58:24PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: > Short version: > Should users first upgrade dpkg and aptitude before upgrading the rest of > the system or can the upgrade safely be done using Woody's version of the > package tools? > > Long version: > The current version of the release notes tells users to (simplified): > 1. apt-get install aptitude > 2. change the /etc/apt/sources.list to point to "stable" > 3. aptitude update > 4. aptitude -f --with-recommends dist-upgrade > > Step 1. is meant to install the Woody version of aptitude, but of course > it will not if the sources.list already points to "stable" and the user > has already done an 'apt-get update'. > > There have of course been improvements in Sarges version of aptitude. Also > I wonder if upgrading the packaging tools as part of the dist-upgrade > could in itself be a source of problems. > > Therefore the question if it would be better to change the procedure to: > 1. change the /etc/apt/sources.list to point to "stable" > 2. apt-get update > 3. apt-get install aptitude dpkg > 4. aptitude -f --with-recommends dist-upgrade > ??????? > > I have done an upgrade myself a while back using the second method [1] and > noticed: > - 'apt-get install aptitude' does _not_ upgrade dpkg automatically; > as it seemed to me better to have all package tools from the same > version, I upgraded both aptitude and dpkg before continuing with the > rest of the upgrade; > - in my test upgrading aptitude and dpkg also upgraded the following: > apt apt-utils aptitude debconf debconf-utils debhelper dpkg dpkg-dev > libc6 libc6-dev libdbd-mysql-perl libdbi-perl libgcc1 libncurses5 > libncurses5-dev libpopt0 locales perl perl-base perl-modules whiptail > zlib1g > and installed: > debconf-i18n dselect gcc-3.3-base gettext intltool-debian > libdb1-compat libdb4.2 libgdbm3 liblocale-gettext-perl > libnet-daemon-perl libnewt0.51 libplrpc-perl libsigc++-1.2-5c102 > libstdc++5 libtext-charwidth-perl libtext-iconv-perl > libtext-wrapi18n-perl linux-kernel-headers po-debconf slang1a-utf8 > I understand that for some arches (hppa) this may necessitate upgrading > the kernel first. > > Comments very, very welcome.
<-- snip --> # apt-get install aptitude dpkg ... The following packages will be REMOVED: cyrus-imapd wine ... [answer n] # apt-get install aptitude dpkg cyrus-imapd wine ... The following packages will be REMOVED: autoconf2.13 ... [answer n] # apt-get install aptitude dpkg cyrus-imapd wine autoconf2.13 ... [nothing to be removed] <-- snip --> OTOH, at least in the woody installation I tried this, "aptitude -f --with-recommends dist-upgrade" works fine. It seems aptitude in woody has a better Conflicts handling than apt in woody making the first step easier for users. > Cheers, > Frans Pop > > [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2004/11/msg00105.html cu Adrian -- "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days. "Only a promise," Lao Er said. Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
