la 3.5.2025 klo 17.41 Julian Andres Klode (j...@debian.org) kirjoitti:
>
> On 3 May 2025 15:03:18 CEST, "Martin-Éric Racine" <martin-eric.rac...@iki.fi> 
> wrote:
> >la 3.5.2025 klo 14.42 Chris Hofstaedtler (z...@debian.org) kirjoitti:
> >>
> >> Control: tags -1 + moreinfo unreproducible
> >>
> >> On Fri, May 02, 2025 at 08:14:37PM +0300, Martin-Éric Racine wrote:
> >> > pe 2.5.2025 klo 19.44 Chris Hofstaedtler (z...@debian.org) kirjoitti:
> >> > >
> >> > > On Sun, Apr 13, 2025 at 10:23:17AM +0300, Martin-Éric Racine wrote:
> >> > > > Is there any way I can help the maintainers pinpoint the source of 
> >> > > > the problem?
> >> > >
> >> > > This bug needs two things:
> >> > >
> >> > > 1) A full reproducer step list, starting from "I have nothing but an 
> >> > > empty
> >> > > amd64 VM".
> >> >
> >> > There isn't much to reproduce:
> >> > 1) Start with a fully functional host running Bookworm with GRUB-EFI
> >> > on a brtfs filesystem created using d-i/Bookworm's default @rootfs
> >> > subvolume name.
> >> > 2) Change APT sources from Bookworm to Trixie.
> >> > 3) Dist-upgrade.
> >> > 4) Reboot.
> >> > 5) Find the above kernel panic.
> >> > 6) Using Bookworm d-i's rescue mode via EFI, APT pin and downgrade
> >> > grub* to Bookworm. All other packages remain at Trixie versions.
> >> > 7) Reboot.
> >> > 8) The host boots normally.
> >>
> >> I've followed these steps today, and cannot reproduce the problem.
> >> The upgraded VM boots successfully.
> >
> >I beleive you.  Again, googling this exact error mostly pulls up
> >reports of this failing on ASUS motherboards of various models.
> >
>
> Unfortunately some firmware is just broken and there isn't much that can be 
> done about that.

Sorry, but that's a really pitiful excuse for breaking something that
worked fine until now.

> As we're moving towards more upstream solutions that use more parts of the 
> firmware, such as EFI LoadFile2 protocols for loading the initrd, more 
> hardware will break.

I cannot help but wonder what is the point of breaking something as
fundamental as a bootloader, even just for the sake of adopting new
ways of doing things. It can only result in fewer and fewer people
using Debian.

Martin-Éric

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