Control: retitle -1 Please support suspend/hibernate on non-systemd systems Control: severity -1 wishlist
Hello Adam Boroski! For some reason this bug shows up at the top of my Debian Maintainer Dashboard even though I'm not involved with XFCE. Anyway, lets take the chance to deal with the confusion in this bug report. On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 02:39:44AM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: [...] > As upower 0.99 drops support for suspend and hibernate, relying on it to > provide said support is futile. If you want to use 0.99, it must be > provided by some other means, such as calling pm-utils directly. The above statement contains (technical) inaccuracies, but I'll focus on the overall wost parts of it. Your statement makes me feel the need to quote the Debian Constitution: "Nothing in this constitution imposes an obligation on anyone to do work for the Project. A person who does not want to do a task which has been delegated or assigned to them does not need to do it. However, they must not actively work against these rules and decisions properly made under them." I hope there's no need for me to paraphrase this.... You should also go read the part which lists the rights of a developer. If the XFCE maintainer feels that only supporting suspend/hibernate through logind interfaces, then it's up to *you* to work out an alternative solution that suits *your* needs. There's no must involved for the maintainer. Once you've provided a patch the maintainers should (note should, not must!) consider your suggested solution -- to be in line with the tech-cttes wishes to support multiple init systems when possible. (Please note that there are many reasons to reject such a patch, so don't be surprised if it is. I doubt there are much room for added maintenance burden on XFCE in Debian and since it seems every project out there are now standardising on the logind D-Bus abstraction, with different backends implementations, using another API is probably not worth investing time in. Instead you should probably focus on implementing yet another backend if the ones out there doesn't suite you.) I also feel the need to add that I'm not aware of any /requirement/ at all for a desktop environment in debian to support suspend/hibernate in any form at all. If that was the case, then I bet we'd have a whole bunch of bug reports to file. Now that we've cleared up the confusion here, I'm adjusting the title and severity of this bug report accordingly as you can see above. (My interpretation was also that the maintainer considered this a "wontfix", but I've held off on setting the tag for now.) I'd recommend that you try to set the correct severity from the beginning in your future feature requests. My experience is that there's a much bigger chance a solution is actually implemented if you avoid over-inflating the severity and use the word "please" instead of making demands. Regards, Andreas Henriksson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-rc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
