Hello Adam Borowski! Thanks for the (initially) useful feedback.
On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 06:50:38AM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: [...] > > sudo cat > > <<EOF>/etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/suspend-hibernate.pkla > > /etc/polkit-1> cat ./localauthority/50-local.d/org.freedesktop.upower.pkla > > [Suspend/hibernate permissions] > > Identity=unix-group:sudo > > Action=org.freedesktop.login1.hibernate;org.freedesktop.login1.suspend > > ResultAny=yes > > ResultInactive=yes > > ResultActive=yes > > EOF > > That's not something an user should need to do. And even if you added this > configuration by default, only people in the sudo group would be able to > suspend -- rather than whoever is logged on. I agree, and so does everyone else it seems. That's why there's already a bug open on systemd-shim about this. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=757348 (Unfortunately it seems to show the same "abandonware" signs as I've gotten the feeling systemd-shim is in the past. I'm sure your help is welcome if you really want to continue using it.) > > > Ofcourse, if you want to avoid fiddling around with undermaintained software > > you could always install/keep systemd-sysv instead. ;) > > I did not break this, the utopia team did. Just keeping the packages at > their working version would work -- so it's not a matter of > "undermaintained", it's "maintained in a bad way". Inaction would be enough > (or at the moment, reverting to wheezy's or mid-jessie-cycle state). This is so full of bullshit. You would have a much easier time finding the solution to your problems if you didn't make up your mind before to even looking at the issue. > > And on 3 out of 5 machines in the room I'm currently I can't even install > systemd-sysv even if I somehow wanted to. Have you reported bugs? My interactions with you on this issue makes me wonder, maybe you're just doing it wrong? > > > But back to the problem at hand: > could you list your test environment, so I could see any setup where upower > _does_ work? I haven't been able to find any environment where it does not work. For example, xfce4 works with systemd. The problem is in systemd-shim, which as previously shown also works but isn't usable out of the box since it needs manual configuration to set up useful policies. I really hope you can move onto actually fixing up the broken software you insist on using instead of blaming others and things which are not related. The support for non-default init systems relies on someone actually contributing to keep them alive. Package maintainers are not responsible for doing that work. Let me relay exactly how tech-ctte members at debconf described it, "Patches welcome". Please realise that the bug tracking system is not a support forum. Noone here has any obligations to help you solve your issues. If you feel that systemd-shim is so broken it's unusable/unfixable, you should be able to very easily write a glue layer between DBus org.freedesktop.login1 IPC and pm-utils (if that's your preferred implementation) to handle the suspend/hibernate part (if that's all you care about). For furter support on this issue, please first get a support contract. Regards, Andreas Henriksson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-rc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
