On 07/04/2011 01:57 AM, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
> On Mon, 2011-07-04 at 01:19 +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
>> On 07/04/2011 12:15 AM, Jonathan Nieder wrote:
>>> Or at least to add the Conflicts
>>> to swift to prevent immediate breakage?
>>
>> Yes, and this should be also put into suckless-tools until this is solved.
> 
> No, it shouldn't. Adding the Conflicts: to either package is a policy
> violation, adding it to both doesn't improve things.

Did you read my sentence in full? I wrote *until this is solved*. I
didn't write that declaring the issue with a Conflicts: was in anyway a
fix, and I agree it it is a policy violation! My only point is that if
there's a conflict, you should declare it asap until we can solve things.

On 07/04/2011 02:08 AM, Jonathan Nieder wrote:
> I was suggesting:
>
>  1) as a short-term measure, add a Conflicts to the swift package.  This
>     doesn't improve its policy compliance, but it at least improves the
>     user experience a little.
>
>  2) before release time, rename "st" in swift upstream.

I hope it's going to happen. It's up to us to monitor and push upstream
to do so.

>  3) in the meantime, keep this bug open so the package doesn't migrate
>     to testing.

Right.

> suckless-tools has nothing to do with it. :)  If adding a Conflicts to
> the suckless-tools package were needed, the same fix would be needed
> in testing (and in stable in analagous cases) to support partial
> upgrades.  Luckily, it isn't needed.

I'm wondering, and you still didn't reply my question: what is the use
of "st" in suckless-tools? Is it a binary called by the user, or barely
just launched by a script?

My point here is that in Swift, "st" is a userland tool. So each time
you'll see in the docs reference to it, which may be very annoying for
our users. Is this the case with suckless-tools?

Please reply to this very important point.

Cheers,

Thomas



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