Michael Biebl wrote:
> First, installing over wireless is certainly not the norm

Amazon is currently selling $350 laptops on which Debian can be installed
over wireless (ath9k) without even needing non-free firmware.

> open wireless networks are not that common either.

That is highly location-dependant, and not true in large regions of eg,
the United States.

Here is one statistic from http://www.wigle.net/gps/gps/main/stats/
Networks with crypto: 14,688,344 (49.8%)
Networks without crypto: 7,988,171 (27.1%)

Also, it's not as if d-i is never going to support WPA.

> And second, allow-hotplug not working on your system is afaics due to a buggy
> driver.

That may be the case -- the driver on my laptop is iwlagn,
and on a laptop with ath9k, an event does seem to be generated on boot.

But even if that is the case, this still stands:

a. Would you really want laptops' wireless interfaces to be
   managed by ifupdown on a system with network-manager, by default?

b. squeeze is heavily frozen, and it is far, far to late in the release
   cycle to be making big changes to either d-i or network-manager.

-- 
see shy jo

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