> Well, you not experiencing problems avoiding Recommends do not really
> change the Debian definition of the Recommends: stanza:
>
> >`Recommends'
> > This declares a strong, but not absolute, dependency.
Nothing defines “absolute”, for me it is (absolute) because:
- SYMPA provides a symlink to this third party package
- a daemon fail to start without this dependency
[...]
> My question is if it is *possible* to hand-tune.
Probably if you are enough skilled to understand the bug and fix it on
your own.
(As a workaround we could add a note in the README.Debian but I doubt of
its effectiveness: it looks like a bug, the first reaction would be to
check BTS rather that reading README.Debian).
[...]
> You do not agree that the needed file is possible to create by other
> means and with other content than installing that package?
This file should a be a bundle of root CA certificates, hence there is 2
choices:
- You try to collect all the root CA certificates manually to build
your own CA file
- You install the ca-certificates package to use the CA bundle it
provides
[...]
> Because in some special cases it is not needed and gets in the way.
I agree when the Recommends add optional features which don't affect
the core program.
[...]
> I do feel, however, that your arguments are tied to how you are used
> to handle package relationships in the past, whereas I believe my
> arguments are tied to how Debian Policy defines the package relation
> stanzas.
WE are tied on how we understand them:
« Recommends: This declares a strong, but not absolute, dependency. »
What mean “absolute”?
> And as I wrote earlier on to this bugreport, I do believe that if
> ca-certificates missing causes sympa to consume all resources on the
> system, then there is a bug in sympa code which should be filed
> separately - and passed upstream.
It's just a possible consequence, the main problem is that the
task_manager daemon doesn't starts. Whatever its role, I think it's a
big issue.
M.
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