tag 614708 + wontfix thanks On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 04:03:18PM -0800, Josh Triplett wrote: > Package: libc6 > Version: 2.11.2-11 > Severity: wishlist > > Looking carefully at the contents of libc-bin, it appears that libc6 > could just Recommends libc-bin, rather than having a Depends on it. > Specifically, taking the contents of libc-bin piece by piece: > > /etc/bindresvport.blacklist > > Not required to run programs, just a workaround for a conflict between > RPC and a handful of services. > > /etc/ld.so.conf.d/libc.conf > > Just adds /usr/local/lib; not a required component of a system. > > /etc/gai.conf
While it is true, not having a dependency between the two makes very difficult to handle the > Consists entirely of commented-out defaults. > > /sbin/ldconfig > > Maintaining ld.so.cache makes the system run faster, but the system will > run without it. The only caveat: any library packages would need to > only run it if it exists. Given that half of the packages does that in the postinst, that's a lot to change. Until they are all changed, that just makes this change totally impossible. > /usr/bin/catchsegv Ok > /usr/bin/getconf Required by POSIX > /usr/bin/getent > /usr/bin/iconv Required by POSIX > /usr/bin/ldd Ok > /usr/bin/localedef > /usr/bin/locale Required by POSIX > /usr/bin/tzselect > /usr/bin/rpcinfo > /usr/bin/zdump Ok > None required for a running system, just generally useful. As said above, most of them are need for POSIX compliance, they have to stay on the system. > > /usr/lib > /usr/lib/pt_chown > > Not required for a running system, just useful. Ok > /usr/sbin/iconvconfig > /usr/sbin/zic Ok > Not required for a running system, just useful. > > /usr/share/man/* > > Helpful documentation but not required to run. Ok > /usr/share/doc/libc-bin/* > > Helpful documentation but not required to run. Ok > /usr/share/lintian/overrides/libc-bin > > Obviously not required. > Ok > So, in general, nothing in libc-bin has to exist for the system to work, > and only one thing (ldconfig) needs some extra care to make sure the > system can cope without its presence. Half of the tool are necessary for POSIX compliance. Also libc-bin 2.13 now provides a C.UTF-8 locale for Debian Policy compliance. While I agree it's possible to run a half-broken system without libc-bin, that doesn't mean you just want it to be recommended. libc-bin is less than 750kB when installed, if you really want to gain space, I would suggest you to start by looking at essential packages (or their dependencies) taking a few MB. That's simply a wontfix for now, just to leave you the right to answer. Otherwise I would just close this bug. Seriously if you want to make so small system that you don't want to install libc-bin, just have a look at emdebian or other solutions. > On the flipside, though, libc-bin probably needs "Depends: libc6", since > it includes various programs that need libc6. > > (Related to this: neither libc6 nor libc-bin has "Essential: yes", so > programs already can't count on them without a dependency.) All that said, I agree that we should drop the dependency from libc6 to libc-bin (and add the dependency in the other direction), and just make libc-bin essential. -- Aurelien Jarno GPG: 1024D/F1BCDB73 aurel...@aurel32.net http://www.aurel32.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
