Hi Jonas.
First of all, I'd be glad if you "hijack" the packages, but I'd like to
explain to you their current situation:

- etoys: it has some important bugs related to the way the squeak image is
bootstraped. Now it's impossible to technically confirm that the whole image
is free, because it's impossible to rebuild the image from scratch. There is
an effort in the squeak community to make that possible, but the steps are
being taken very slowly. That's why I haven't updated that package. Redo the
package with the new image is easy and can be done pretty fast, so you won't
have problems with this package.

-squeak-vm: I'd like to continue maintaining this package, but there was
inside the squeak community some people (Bert among them) who didn't like
the way I do the package because they have done a different debianization.
The problem is the way the package is focused: I focused it to use Squeak in
education, so I added desktop integration, mime types and launchers for
kde/gnome. They focused the package in using squeak to develop, so the
launcher is console based, allowing more parameters to launch squeak in
different ways. Trying to solve this problem I created an alioth project:
https://alioth.debian.org/projects/pkg-squeak/ , I added the "other" people
as administrator and developper and upload my debianization (that includes
some fixes for the current package in Debian). That was seven months ago,
and since then, no one has added anything or argue anything in the mailing
lists. So, I'm a little frozen with the package, as I could do a new upload
with "my" debianization, but I would like to do it together with the rest of
the people who have worked on it inside the Squeak community. I've used
Squeak a lot , and know pretty well the image and smalltalk, but about the
vm, I do know that there are people there who know much better its insides.

Squeak is a really weird project inside the Debian rules, and its
debianization have some problems that are really hard to solve inside
Debian.
So, now you know the situation, and can decide: you can continue what I did
and ignore the problems that both, Debian and Squeak communities are
raising, or try to fight against the giants of the different egos to fix
them. In any case, you have my support if you hijack the packages, or if you
want my help to do new uploads.

Cheers.
José L.

2009/12/1 Jonas Smedegaard <d...@jones.dk>

> Package: etoys
> Version: 3.0.1916+svn132-2
> Severity: wishlist
>
> Hi,
>
> Bert Freudenberg announced a new version recently, and also at earlier
> occasions mentioned that this package and the underlying squeak-vm seems
> unmaintained for quite some time.
>
> Would it be ok with you that I "hijack" these packages and move it to be
> team-maintained under the umbrella of the OLPC Alioth team?
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
>  - Jonas
>
> -- System Information:
> Debian Release: squeeze/sid
>  APT prefers unstable
>  APT policy: (500, 'unstable')
> Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)
>
> Kernel: Linux 2.6.32-rc8-amd64 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
> Locale: LANG=da_DK.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=da_DK.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
> Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash
>
> Versions of packages etoys depends on:
> ii  squeak-vm          3.10.3+svn1902.dfsg-1 The Squeak Smalltalk System
> (virtu
>
> Versions of packages etoys recommends:
> ii  etoys-doc              3.0.1916+svn132-2 Documentation for etoys
>
> etoys suggests no packages.
>
> -- no debconf information
>
>
>

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