reassign 505292 util-vserver
tags 505292 + wontfix
thanks

Hi

I tend to agree with this. The packages should be removed instead.

In any case I'll reassign it to util-vserver again. As you do not consider
it as a bug I marked it as wontfix.

Best regards,

// Ola

On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 12:07:44AM +0100, Harald Weidner wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> > The util-vserver package aims to only start the services that are vital
> > to the guest persisting, and any other service should be enabled by the
> > administrator, rather than running by default consuming resources
> > without any point. It is the position of util-vserver that
> > administrators should enable the services that they want. If you want
> > cron, you should enable cron.
> 
> I consider it a rather faulty solution to install cron but disable it.
> util-vserver also installs logrotate, and lograte explicitely depends
> on cron. So the dependency is formally fulfilled but logrotate won't
> work as expected.
> 
> If the util-vserver project really thinks that cron in a vserver is waste
> of resources, the consistent solution would be to purge logrotate and cron.
> This would have the advantage that if the administrator ever installs any
> other package which depends on logrotate or cron, cron will be installed
> and work.
> 
> Moreover the current solution is instable. As soon as a new cron package
> appeares on security.debian.org and is installed, cron will be activated.
> 
> > Now, I believe that a lot of people debootstrap guests and expect many
> > fundamental system elements to be enabled, as they are creating
> > mini-servers
> 
> I don't expect many things to be present in a minimal vserver. In fact, I
> believe that the basic installation as done be newvserver could be stripped
> by at least 25 packages, mainly hardware/network related stuff. But what
> is installed should work as intended.
> 
> > Seeing as upstream finds this intentional, its probably best for
> > newvserver to re-enable cron for people, rather that util-vserver to
> > revert the change from upstream. 
> 
> That's okay for me.
> 
> Regards,
> Harald
> 

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