Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > On 31-05-2005 14:53, Steve Langasek wrote: > >>>On Tue, May 31, 2005 at 08:00:24AM +0200, Finn-Arne Johansen wrote: >>> >>>>>>I agree that debian-edu is a special case, but don't see your point in >>>>>>that being a good excuse for ignoring policy: Debian-edu-* packages are >>>>>>expected only to be useful in the Skolelinux Debian-derived >>>>>>distribution. It is a goal of debian-edu to be able to create Skolelinux >>>>>>solely from officially released Debian packages but that goal is not yet >>>>>>reached so a few more packages having to be added unofficially shouldn't >>>>>>be a big deal. >>> >>>>>What other packages does Skolelinux depend on for sarge that are not in >>>>>Debian? >>> >>>>ltsp >>>>j2re1.4
Those are the only two that are not in Debian now. >>> >>>So, precisely one package not in Debian that is actually eligible for >>>inclusion in Debian. :) > > No. I believe what Finn-Arne mentions is well-known ones only, not a > complete list - judging from his own words recently on the issue of what > is actually based on Debian Sarge in the current snapshots aiming at > becoming next official Skolelinux release: > http://lists.debian.org/debian-edu/2005/05/msg00205.html Ah your talking about the packages that actually are in Debian sarge, but in a state were we cant use them, like the lessdisks-packages and the likes. Yes, Some package maintainers are just to lazy to get their work done. > I suspect the count to be higher than the above two plus the one > specifically discussed in the referenced debian-edu thread. The apt source that is used besides "official debian sarge", is http://ftp.skolelinux.no/skolelinux sarge local >From this, the folowing packages are included: Newer autopartkit than the one in rc3 (dont remember why) autopartkit_1.08_i386.udeb Newer debian-edu-install than the one in sarge, we have to have progress debian-edu-install_0.646+svn3411_all.deb debian-edu-profile-udeb_0.646+svn3411_all.udeb debian-edu-install-udeb_0.646+svn3411_all.udeb Newer debian-edu-config, for the same reason as d-e-install debian-edu-config_0.397+svn3410_all.deb Newer debian-edu, same reason as above education-laptop_0.803+svn3327_i386.deb education-desktop-kde_0.803+svn3327_i386.deb education-standalone_0.803+svn3327_i386.deb education-workstation_0.803+svn3327_i386.deb education-thin-client-server_0.803+svn3327_i386.deb education-common_0.803+svn3327_i386.deb education-networked_0.803+svn3327_i386.deb education-tasks_0.803+svn3327_i386.deb education-main-server_0.803+svn3327_i386.deb We need a working java runtime on the installation, and are allowed to include this version on the cd by Sun j2re1.4_1.4.2_05-0.skolelinux.2_i386.deb Some lessdisks-packages. We need to have this preseedable, which was made possible in 0.6.1 (I think). Sarge have 0.5.3? initrd-netboot-tools_0.6.2c_all.deb kernel-image-netbootable_0.6.2c_all.deb lessdisks-terminal_0.6.2c_all.deb lessdisks-common_0.6.2c_all.deb lessdisks-easydialog_0.6.2c_all.deb lessdisks_0.6.2c_all.deb LTSP is not included in debian, I guess the future will tell if they ever will be included ltsp-x-xserver-svga-3.3.6-i386_4.1-0_all.deb ltsp-x-xserver-s3-s3v-3.3.6-i386_4.1-0_all.deb ltsp-x-xserver-mach64-3.3.6-i386_4.1-0_all.deb ltsp-core-i386_4.1-1_all.deb ltsp-kernel-2.4.26-edu-i386_4.1-2_all.deb ltsp-localdev-i386_4.1-0_all.deb ltsp-modules-2.4.26-i386_4.1-2_all.deb ltsp-sound-i386_4.1-0_all.deb ltsp-x-core-i386_4.1-0_all.deb ltsp-x-xserver-mach32-3.3.6-i386_4.1-0_all.deb The rest of the packages is fetched from debian local mirror on developer. > Sure, most of the unofficial packages for Skolelinux is improvements > expected to get included in a later Debian release, but just as Ubuntu > isn't "official Debian" so is also not Skolelinux currently. Yes - there is one source package whos binaries are included on the CD. I guess we cant do anything with the current maintainer of those packages, as he is clearly occupied with other things than keeping up with upstream. > So I dare repeat myself: Adding a few more packages unofficially (that > breaks policy) shouldn't be a big deal for Skolelinux. ??? -- Finn-Arne Johansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bzz.no/ Debian-edu sarge prerelease manager -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
