On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 10:22:58AM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: > On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 12:00:52AM +0200, Mohammed Sameer wrote: > > [snips] > > On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 08:06:25AM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: > > > > Unfortunately, MGT is dead upstream and is scheduled for removal from > > > > Debian. > > > > > > that would be a shame. gnome terminal (GT) just isn't as good as > > > multi-gnome-terminal (MGT). > > > > > > - it's noticably slower than MGT, noticable even in delays when > > > you are typing. > > > > Are you running GNOME ? I also noticed that VTE, the widget it's using > > is a bit slower than zvt, the widget used by m-g-t but that's with > > rendering not typing. > > yep, running gnome. > > as for rendering vs typing...yes, you're probably right. but it still > looks and "feels" like delays while typing because there's a noticable > delay between typing a letter and having it appear on screen.
I don't really think I can do anything. I'm not using GT myself > > > > I'd have loved to fix that but I don't feel like fixing it if it'll > > > > be removed from Debian > > > > > > like any other package, MGT will only be removed from debian if nobody > > > maintains it. > > > > Gtk 1.x will be removed. It's a release goal for lenny. That's why all > > packages depending on it has to be upgraded to gtk 2.x or removed. > > yeah, well, i guess that's necessary...and probably long overdue. > > it's just annoying that it will kill off MGT too. I know. It's like losing a child for me :-( > > For m-g-t, It's been already removed. I don't mind trying to port it but > > I can't do it alone. I'll need help. Are you interested in joining efforts ? > > > > I think I know someone else who can join. Let's take this discussion off > > list > > if you really feel like joining. > > i'd love to but i suspect it's way beyond my meagre C programming skills, > and i certainly don't know either GTK1.x or GTK2 anywhere near well > enough. > > if good quality feedback and bug reports are useful to you, then i could > do that. Let's see if I can find someone else to port it with me then. I don't think I can handle it alone. I know I can start it and get it to compile but I'll probably ignore it after that. > > > i only noticed this bug report because MGT depends on liborbit0 which is > > > being replaced in unstable with liborbit0ldbl (thus forcing removal of > > > MGT if i let it upgrade).....and i can't even find the source package > > > for MGT 1.6.2-13.1 so i can recompile it myself against the libs in > > > unstable. > > > > Because it's been removed already. > > I'm using testing, that's why I didn't hit this. > > any idea where i can find the source for 1.6.2-13.1 ? From me ? ;-) http://home.foolab.org/files/mgt/ Amaya did the last upload so the .dsc file has her signature. You can verify it yourself. > > The 3 solutions I can see are: > > 1) Port it, I need help. > > 2) Maintain an unofficial repository with gtk 1.x, Hard work but not a lot > > once it's up. > > Problem is we will be maintaining a lot of packages unmaintained upstream. > > 3) Write an alternative. I started with this: > > http://home.foolab.org/svn/projects/tabterm/trunk/ > > Spaghetti code, missing a lot of features, unlikely to see a release. > > a fourth option would be to make Gnome Terminal work more like MGT. it's > not perfect, and it's not going to be as lightweight as MGT but if it > works roughly the same, i can't say that i'd care that much. I don't think GNOME'll accept this. > maybe even fork GT to make New-MGT, and strip out as many of the > annoying things that slow it down as possible. that would probably be a > lot less work than porting MGT to GTK2 Actually, if it's porting Vs. writing my own code, I'd rather write my own. GT is a bit over engineered "the drawing backend". Have you tried other alternative multi-tabbed terminals ? Cheers, -- GPG-Key: 0xA3FD0DF7 - 9F73 032E EAC9 F7AD 951F 280E CB66 8E29 A3FD 0DF7 Debian User and Developer. Homepage: www.foolab.org
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