> Unfortunately, MGT is dead upstream and is scheduled for removal from
> Debian.

that would be a shame.  gnome terminal (GT) just isn't as good as
multi-gnome-terminal (MGT).

 - it's noticably slower than MGT, noticable even in delays when
   you are typing.

 - GT's handling of tabs isn't as good

    - it doesn't number the tabs, and you can't switch tabs with Ctrl-#

    - it does weird things with tab titles.  the title text is bolded,
      in a large font and you can't fit many characters in the title
      before it replaces the title with useless '...'. 
      
      and instead of having a fixed title width for each tab, it adjusts
      the title width each time you open a new tab.

      e.g. try opening 18 tabs in MGT and 18 tabs in GT.  give each of
      them different titles.  it's obvious which one is more
      informative.

      this also affects the appearance and location of GT in the gnome
      panel Window List applet.

      why is this so bad? i use the tab titles to tell which terminal
      tabs are my uid, which are root, which are ssh-ed into other
      machines so i can easily switch to them just by clicking on the
      title (or pressing Ctrl-n).

      this wont be possible in GT because GT seems to regard tab titles
      as useless decoration rather than a source of useful information.

    - GT doesn't remember how many tabs you had open and re-open them
      when you re-start it.

 - GT's font handling is weird.  it seems to bold everything by default.
   this impacts on text in the terminal window and in the title tabs.

   with MGT, i can easily fit a 132x75 terminal onto my 21" CRT monitor
   (between the top and bottom gnome panels), with quite readable text,
   and with informative tab titles (and room to spare even with 19 tabs
   in the window).

   with GT, i can fit a 132x64 terminal window onto the same screen, 
   with squished up uninformative tab titles, no matter what font i
   use.


GT is OK for someone who doesn't use terminal windows much.  it's not
OK for someone who spends most of their time in text terminals and ssh
sessions to remote machines.

i know MGT isn't perfect, but it's a lot better than GT.


> I'd have loved to fix that but I don't feel like fixing it if it'll
> be removed from Debian

like any other package, MGT will only be removed from debian if nobody
maintains it.

if you fix it and maintain it, people will use it.  if it's dead
upstream then it can be forked and maintained within debian.



btw, i haven't noticed MGT crashing on my system, and i have:

ii  xserver-xorg-core           2:1.4.1~git20080131-1       Xorg X server - 
core server






i only noticed this bug report because MGT depends on liborbit0 which is
being replaced in unstable with liborbit0ldbl (thus forcing removal of
MGT if i let it upgrade).....and i can't even find the source package
for MGT 1.6.2-13.1 so i can recompile it myself against the libs in
unstable.

ganesh:/usr/local/src/debian/multi-gnome-terminal# apt-get source 
multi-gnome-terminal
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
E: Unable to find a source package for multi-gnome-terminal


craig

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