On Thu, May  3, 2007 at 17:55:00 +0200, Bastian Venthur wrote:

> Am 03.05.2007 17:17 schrieb Julien Cristau:
> > If I'm requesting that information, it's not to annoy you, it's because
> > without it bug reports are useless, and it's easy for any bug reporting
> > tool to include it.  If you find that a package adds useless information
> > in its script, then file a bug against that package, but the bug
> > reporting tool is not the place to make that call.
> > I don't consider this as a wishlist bug.
> 
> I do. You don't report a bug in rng but requesting a specific feature.
> 
You're developing a remplacement for reportbug and in the process losing
features which helped avoid busy work both for package maintainers and
bug submitters.  I think that's a pretty important problem for a bug
reporting tool.

> >> You say that bugs with rng lack of important information and that many
> >> of them are useless. Could you please backup this claim by a few
> >> examples? 
> > 
> > Any bug reported against the xserver-xorg* packages.
> 
> Any? Those are *all* xorg related bugs I've ever reported and in *none*
> of them the output of the script was relevant: #326755 #322543.
> 
> I picked three random bugs from xserver-xorg using rng:
> 
> the first one in the list: #211765 - some license problem, output was
> not relevant
> 
> one from the middle: #354363 - no answer to the bugreport so far
> 
> the last one: #369900 - looks like the output of the script was not
> relevant at all
> 
> I don't doubt that this feature *is* actually useful, I just don't
> believe that it is relevant for *all* or even the majority of bugreports.
> 
Please stop second guessing package maintainers.  This stuff was added
by the people who actually deal with the bugs, so I think their
opinion might be relevant.

> 
> I may implement this feature in the future (although it's pretty low on
> my priority list), but if I do, it would be fully optional to include
> this info or to read the presubj.
> 
Make it optional if you want, but pretty please, with sugar on top,
don't think this is unimportant because you, personally, don't use it in
your packages.

Thanks,
Julien

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