Interesting response. 

The failure I was referring to was what happened AFTER I did a NETWORK download 
and install of the LATEST daily. That is the state that the Proliant 3000 was 
left in. No access to fd0 and cdrom. It couldn't even " see " the package ( on 
CD ) that started the install in the first place! I had to remove the 
repository to get the system upgrades!
I report what I see. The system won't boot ETCH and mount fd0 and cdrom. It 
will boot and run SARGE with no problems. It will boot and run W2000AS with no 
problems. DEV entries for fd0 and cdrom are missing in ETCH after the network 
upgrades.

On the eye candy. I have always used the TEXT install. That avoids problems 
with graphics cards and using any X installations. That is a holdover from my 
UNIX days when X was difficult to configure and get right.

[rant]
The bottom line: I guess the DEBIAN community has really not changed it's 
attitude over the YEARS  if your post is an example of what I can expect in 
terms of help. I went out of my way to DIAGNOSE a problem and ask about help in 
resolving it. I do HARDWARE real well, not SOFTWARE. The creation of the X-MP 
and Y-MP systems are good examples of that. I cut my teeth on UNIX SVR4 and 
remember what a nightmare it was to get X running.
 I have FOUR Proliant systems which are used as PERSONAL systems. That gives me 
time to play with different distros and look at the + and - of each.
The GENERAL community looks at DEBIAN as a PITA to configure and point to it as 
an example as to why M$ products are better. Is that the attitude you want 
DEBIAN to maintain?
 Mark S. has created what appears to be a POLISHED DEBIAN based " product "  
THAT WORKS WELL OUT OF THE BOX!!
UBUNTU even offers a working implementation of Edgy Eft for a COMPAQ server!
ETCH had a problem and I thought I could help out. ( There are many PROLIANT 
3000 systems still out in the SERVER world ) I guess I was mistaken.
I resolved my problem by installing KUBUNTU/UBUNTU Server packages. The best of 
BOTH worlds. High level  tools to get the job done. Now on to CLUSTERKNOPPIX 
and some SUPERCOMPUTER design....
 You can close this bug report out if you wish, but from MY viewpoint, there 
are SEVERAL problems that need to be addressed. I suggest that this rant be 
kicked up to the people  who complained about PAYING people to " finish " a 
DEBIAN " product ". 
[/rant]

Sincerely Yours,

Arthur Blackwell




Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sunday 24 December 2006 09:41, Amaya 
wrote:
> The good news: NICE eye candy compared to the usual install!

Huh? I guess you must be referring to the graphical installer, but that 
was also available in the original image you tried and never booted by 
default.
Did you in fact boot the image differently?

In your initial report, I'm a bit confused if you are talking about 
missing CD support during an install or after reboot into the installed 
system. I'm assuming installation.

In your initial report you said: no CD drives _after_ network config, but 
when installing from CD, the CD detection always happens _before_ network 
config. Please follow the installation procedure and report what happens 
accurately.

> The bad news: I have the same problem: no recognition of the floppy or
> CD-ROM drives. The /DEV directory entries needed are still missing, and
> the drives won't mount.

To be of any help, we'll need at least the output of 'lspci -nn' for that 
box.

Also, please try the diagnostics suggested at:
http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/ch05s01.html
and report your findings.

Another option to try is to install in expert mode (boot with 'expert') 
and only selectively load modules needed to detect the CDROM at first.

Note that the issues you are seeing are almost always due to driver 
conflicts in the kernel, and not problems in the installer itself. We can 
only suggest things to try and, if we do manage to identify an issue, 
forward it to kernel maintainers. There is very little chance we can 

As you also have working images from other distros, the best chance of 
identifying what is up is if you investigate this yourself: what kernel 
versions are used, what modules are loaded and in what order. Are there 
relevant differences that could make one work and the other not. Try 
things manually.

If are in a hurry to install the box, you could also try netbooting the 
box instead of installing from CD.

Cheers,
FJP



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