2006/10/16, Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 11:41:16AM -0400, Jason Spiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was 
heard to say:
  Could you give an example of a case where aptitude doesn't do this?

I do not know any examples where aptitude *does* show suggestions.

== Example 1 comparing apt-get and aptitude ==

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/lib/aptitude$ sudo apt-get install hpijs
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
 libsensors3 libsnmp-base libsnmp9
Suggested packages:
 hplip hpoj hpijs-ppds hplip-doc lm-sensors
The following NEW packages will be installed:
 hpijs libsensors3 libsnmp-base libsnmp9
0 upgraded, 4 newly installed, 0 to remove and 371 not upgraded.
Need to get 3453kB of archives.
After unpacking 7295kB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? n
Abort.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/lib/aptitude$ sudo aptitude install hpijs
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading extended state information
Initializing package states... Done
Building tag database... Done
The following NEW packages will be automatically installed:
 libsensors3 libsnmp-base libsnmp9
The following packages have been kept back:
 abiword abiword-common abiword-help alsa-base alsa-oss alsa-utils
apt apt-utils aptitude asp.net-examples aspell-en
 base-files bash binfmtc binutils bsdmainutils bsdutils busybox bzip2
ca-certificates cdrecord cli-common cli-common-dev
 console-common console-data console-tools coreutils cpio cpp cron
cupsys cupsys-bsd cupsys-client curl dbus dchroot
 debconf debconf-i18n debfoster debian-policy debianutils deborphan
debtags devscripts dictionaries-common dnsutils dpkg
 dpkg-dev dselect eject emacs-goodies-el emacs21 emacs21-bin-common
emacs21-common erc ethereal expect fakeroot fam file
 findutils foomatic-db foomatic-db-engine foomatic-filters fping g++
gaim gaim-data gcc gconf2 gconf2-common gettext
 gettext-base gksu gnupg gparted grub gs-common gs-esp gv gzip
hicolor-icon-theme htop ifupdown imagemagick info
 initramfs-tools initscripts intltool-debian iptables kappfinder
kdebase-bin kdebase-data kdelibs-data kdelibs4c2a
 kdeprint kdesktop kdm kghostview kicker klibc-utils klipper
kmenuedit konsole kopete kpdf ksmserver kweather kwin less
 libacl1 libarts1c2a libartsc0 libasn1-6-heimdal libasound2 libaudio2
libavahi-common-data libavahi-common3
 libavahi-glib1 libavahi-qt3-1 libbind9-0 libbonobo2-0
libbonobo2-common libbonoboui2-0 libbonoboui2-common libbz2-1.0
 libcairo-perl libconsole libcupsimage2 libcupsys2 libcurl3 libdb4.2
libdb4.3 libdb4.4 libdbus-1-3 libdevmapper1.02
 libdns21 libdrm2 libexpat1 libfam0 libfontenc1 libfreetype6
libfribidi0 libfs6 libgconf2-4 libgcrypt11
 libgetopt-argvfile-perl libgksu2-0 libgl1-mesa-dri libgl1-mesa-glx
libglade2-0 libglib-perl libglibmm-2.4-1c2a
 libglu1-mesa libgmp3c2 libgnomecups1.0-1 libgnomeprint2.2-0
libgnomeprint2.2-data libgnomevfs2-0 libgnomevfs2-common
 libgnomevfs2-extra libgnutls13 libgpg-error0 libgsf-1-114
libgsf-1-common libgtk2.0-0 libgtk2.0-bin libgtk2.0-common
 libgtop2-7 libgtop2-common libhal-storage1 libhal1 libice6 libidn11
libisc11 libisccc0 libisccfg1 libklibc
 libkrb5-17-heimdal libkrb53 libldap2 liblircclient0 liblua50
liblualib50 liblwres9 libmagic1 libmagick9 libmodplug0c2
 libmono-corlib1.0-cil libmono-corlib2.0-cil libmono-data-tds1.0-cil
libmono-data-tds2.0-cil libmono-peapi1.0-cil
 libmono-security1.0-cil libmono-security2.0-cil
libmono-sharpzip0.84-cil libmono-system-data1.0-cil
 libmono-system-data2.0-cil libmono-system-runtime1.0-cil
libmono-system-web1.0-cil libmono-system-web2.0-cil
 libmono-system1.0-cil libmono-system2.0-cil libmono0 libmono1.0-cil
libmysqlclient15off libnautilus-extension1
 libncurses5 libncurses5-dev libncursesw5 liborbit2 libpam-modules
libpam-runtime libpam0g libpango1.0-0
 libpango1.0-common libpaper-utils libpaper1 libpcap0.8 libpcre3
libpopt0 libpq4 libreadline5 libroken16-heimdal
 libsasl2 libsasl2-modules libselinux1 libsepol1 libsigc++-2.0-0c2a
libslp1 libsm6 libssl0.9.8 libstartup-notification0
 libtasn1-3 libtasn1-3-bin libtext-charwidth-perl libtext-iconv-perl
libtext-wikiformat-perl libtext-wrapi18n-perl
 libtiff4 libtotem-plparser1 libungif4g libvolume-id0 libwrap0
libx11-data libxau6 libxaw7 libxcomposite1 libxdamage1
 libxfixes3 libxfont1 libxine1 libxml2 libxmuu1 libxp6 libxpm4
libxslt1.1 libxtrap6 libxtst6 libxv1 libxvmc1
 libxxf86dga1 libxxf86misc1 libxxf86vm1 linux-kernel-headers
linux-sound-base login lsb-base lynx m4 makedev manpages
 manpages-dev menu mime-support mkisofs module-assistant modutils
mono-classlib-1.0 mono-common mono-gac mono-jit
 mono-mcs mono-runtime mono-utils mono-xsp mono-xsp-base mount
myspell-en-us mysql-common nano ncurses-base ncurses-bin
 ncurses-term nmap ntpdate nvi openssh-client openssh-server openssl
oracle-xe-client parted passwd pciutils perl-doc
 po-debconf procps psmisc psutils pymacs python-central python-glade2
python-gtk2 python-libxml2 python-mode
 python-support readline-common renameutils reportbug samba-common
shared-mime-info smbclient smbfs ssh sysstat sysv-rc
 sysvinit tar tcl8.4 tcpd tcpdump totem totem-xine ttf-bitstream-vera
txt2html tzdata ucf udev unzip usbutils util-linux
 vim vim-common vim-runtime wget whois wireshark wireshark-common
wyrd xbase-clients xdiskusage xfe xfonts-100dpi
 xfonts-75dpi xfonts-base xfonts-encodings xfonts-scalable xpdf
xpdf-common xpdf-reader xpdf-utils xserver-xorg-core
 xserver-xorg-input-evdev xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
xserver-xorg-input-wacom xterm xtightvncviewer xutils xutils-dev
 zip zsh
The following NEW packages will be installed:
 hpijs libsensors3 libsnmp-base libsnmp9
0 packages upgraded, 4 newly installed, 0 to remove and 371 not upgraded.
Need to get 3453kB of archives. After unpacking 7295kB will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?] n
Abort.

== Example 2 comparing apt-get and aptitude ==


-- [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/lib/aptitude$ sudo apt-get install lynx-cur
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Suggested packages:
 lynx-cur-wrapper
The following packages will be REMOVED:
 lynx
The following NEW packages will be installed:
 lynx-cur
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 1 to remove and 370 not upgraded.
Need to get 1964kB of archives.
After unpacking 209kB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? n
Abort.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/lib/aptitude$ sudo aptitude install lynx-cur
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading extended state information
Initializing package states... Done
Building tag database... Done
The following packages will be automatically REMOVED:
 lynx
The following packages have been kept back:
 abiword abiword-common abiword-help alsa-base alsa-oss alsa-utils
apt apt-utils aptitude asp.net-examples aspell-en
 base-files bash binfmtc binutils bsdmainutils bsdutils busybox bzip2
ca-certificates cdrecord cli-common cli-common-dev
 console-common console-data console-tools coreutils cpio cpp cron
cupsys cupsys-bsd cupsys-client curl dbus dchroot
 debconf debconf-i18n debfoster debian-policy debianutils deborphan
debtags devscripts dictionaries-common dnsutils dpkg
 dpkg-dev dselect eject emacs-goodies-el emacs21 emacs21-bin-common
emacs21-common erc ethereal expect fakeroot fam file
 findutils foomatic-db foomatic-db-engine foomatic-filters fping g++
gaim gaim-data gcc gconf2 gconf2-common gettext
 gettext-base gksu gnupg gparted grub gs-common gs-esp gv gzip
hicolor-icon-theme htop ifupdown imagemagick info
 initramfs-tools initscripts intltool-debian iptables kappfinder
kdebase-bin kdebase-data kdelibs-data kdelibs4c2a
 kdeprint kdesktop kdm kghostview kicker klibc-utils klipper
kmenuedit konsole kopete kpdf ksmserver kweather kwin less
 libacl1 libarts1c2a libartsc0 libasn1-6-heimdal libasound2 libaudio2
libavahi-common-data libavahi-common3
 libavahi-glib1 libavahi-qt3-1 libbind9-0 libbonobo2-0
libbonobo2-common libbonoboui2-0 libbonoboui2-common libbz2-1.0
 libcairo-perl libconsole libcupsimage2 libcupsys2 libcurl3 libdb4.2
libdb4.3 libdb4.4 libdbus-1-3 libdevmapper1.02
 libdns21 libdrm2 libexpat1 libfam0 libfontenc1 libfreetype6
libfribidi0 libfs6 libgconf2-4 libgcrypt11
 libgetopt-argvfile-perl libgksu2-0 libgl1-mesa-dri libgl1-mesa-glx
libglade2-0 libglib-perl libglibmm-2.4-1c2a
 libglu1-mesa libgmp3c2 libgnomecups1.0-1 libgnomeprint2.2-0
libgnomeprint2.2-data libgnomevfs2-0 libgnomevfs2-common
 libgnomevfs2-extra libgnutls13 libgpg-error0 libgsf-1-114
libgsf-1-common libgtk2.0-0 libgtk2.0-bin libgtk2.0-common
 libgtop2-7 libgtop2-common libhal-storage1 libhal1 libice6 libidn11
libisc11 libisccc0 libisccfg1 libklibc
 libkrb5-17-heimdal libkrb53 libldap2 liblircclient0 liblua50
liblualib50 liblwres9 libmagic1 libmagick9 libmodplug0c2
 libmono-corlib1.0-cil libmono-corlib2.0-cil libmono-data-tds1.0-cil
libmono-data-tds2.0-cil libmono-peapi1.0-cil
 libmono-security1.0-cil libmono-security2.0-cil
libmono-sharpzip0.84-cil libmono-system-data1.0-cil
 libmono-system-data2.0-cil libmono-system-runtime1.0-cil
libmono-system-web1.0-cil libmono-system-web2.0-cil
 libmono-system1.0-cil libmono-system2.0-cil libmono0 libmono1.0-cil
libmysqlclient15off libnautilus-extension1
 libncurses5 libncurses5-dev libncursesw5 liborbit2 libpam-modules
libpam-runtime libpam0g libpango1.0-0
 libpango1.0-common libpaper-utils libpaper1 libpcap0.8 libpcre3
libpopt0 libpq4 libreadline5 libroken16-heimdal
 libsasl2 libsasl2-modules libselinux1 libsepol1 libsigc++-2.0-0c2a
libslp1 libsm6 libssl0.9.8 libstartup-notification0
 libtasn1-3 libtasn1-3-bin libtext-charwidth-perl libtext-iconv-perl
libtext-wikiformat-perl libtext-wrapi18n-perl
 libtiff4 libtotem-plparser1 libungif4g libvolume-id0 libwrap0
libx11-data libxau6 libxaw7 libxcomposite1 libxdamage1
 libxfixes3 libxfont1 libxine1 libxml2 libxmuu1 libxp6 libxpm4
libxslt1.1 libxtrap6 libxtst6 libxv1 libxvmc1
 libxxf86dga1 libxxf86misc1 libxxf86vm1 linux-kernel-headers
linux-sound-base login lsb-base m4 makedev manpages
 manpages-dev menu mime-support mkisofs module-assistant modutils
mono-classlib-1.0 mono-common mono-gac mono-jit
 mono-mcs mono-runtime mono-utils mono-xsp mono-xsp-base mount
myspell-en-us mysql-common nano ncurses-base ncurses-bin
 ncurses-term nmap ntpdate nvi openssh-client openssh-server openssl
oracle-xe-client parted passwd pciutils perl-doc
 po-debconf procps psmisc psutils pymacs python-central python-glade2
python-gtk2 python-libxml2 python-mode
 python-support readline-common renameutils reportbug samba-common
shared-mime-info smbclient smbfs ssh sysstat sysv-rc
 sysvinit tar tcl8.4 tcpd tcpdump totem totem-xine ttf-bitstream-vera
txt2html tzdata ucf udev unzip usbutils util-linux
 vim vim-common vim-runtime wget whois wireshark wireshark-common
wyrd xbase-clients xdiskusage xfe xfonts-100dpi
 xfonts-75dpi xfonts-base xfonts-encodings xfonts-scalable xpdf
xpdf-common xpdf-reader xpdf-utils xserver-xorg-core
 xserver-xorg-input-evdev xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
xserver-xorg-input-wacom xterm xtightvncviewer xutils xutils-dev
 zip zsh
The following NEW packages will be installed:
 lynx-cur
The following packages will be REMOVED:
 lynx
0 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 1 to remove and 370 not upgraded.
Need to get 1964kB of archives. After unpacking 209kB will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?] n
Abort.

As you can see, in both cases, apt-get shows a list of Suggests and
aptitude does not.

Note: I upgraded to aptitude 0.4.3-1 today. The problem still happens.

--Jason

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