On 20.07.25 12:44, Paul Gevers wrote:
On Sun, 20 Jul 2025 12:27:53 +0200 Niels Thykier <ni...@thykier.net> wrote:

Perharps debian-devel or other people that would be in similar situations can help. Concretely, I suspect the postgres/mariaDB maintainers would have been in a similar situation at some point (I think PostgreSQL has a yearly bump of data base format). Personally, I would probably reach out to the PostgreSQL maintainers / check the PG packaging.

The situation for MariaDB warranted documentation in the Release Notes:

https://www.debian.org/releases/trixie/release-notes/ issues.html#mariadb-major-version-upgrades-only-work-reliably-after-a- clean-shutdown

Maybe we can reduce the amount of people running into the scenario where this is needed by giving sound upgrade instructions?

Is the upgrade handled by dbconfig-common? I recall that will at least dump the database before trying the upgrade and notify the user of that in case of failures.

I am inclined to just switch the default to true, so automated upgrade will work, I have prepared a branch for this.

Carsten will need to weigh in though.

I also intent to an addition to the release-notes documenting the need for enough space to be available for the upgrade to work.

Grüße,
Sven.

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