Hi Andreas! [ dropping Shane since his mail is bouncing ]
On Sat, Feb 22, 2025 at 10:29:22AM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: > Am Sat, Feb 22, 2025 at 07:12:27AM +0100 schrieb Joost van Baal-Ilić: > > > IMHO the dotconf example shows that these established procedures do not > > > seem to be sufficient. > > > > IMHO it does not show that. There are no long-unfixed RC bugs in dotconf. > > I tend to disagree. We have two bugs with patches. One is 6 years old > and is affecting the functionality of the package (#913337) and one is 3 > years old about multiarch:same. Both did not received any answer. If > we are honest about "Our Priorities are Our Users" we can't ignore such > things and just care for RC bugs. I believe our debian-mentors infrastructure currently is working pretty OK. If people file a bug, write a patch, and the problem _still_ isn't getting fixed, they're very welcome to prepare a package and offer it for upload @ mentors. I am still not convinced the issue we're seeing here could be addressed by changing our procedures. I am also convinced the current description of the ITS process ( https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/pkgs.en.html#package-salvaging ) is serving its purpose just fine. > Probably we need to discuss the term "not actively maintained by > maintainer" but IMHO examples like this should be included into the > consideration. I agree we carry quite a lot of packages which could be considered "not actively maintained by maintainer". It would indeed be better if all our packages _were_ actively maintained by maintainer. But I feel the way we're dealing with this now is good enough. > > If people would like to take over long term maintenanceship of dotconf, I'd > > suggest these people should just talk to Shane. > > MIA team found out that all emails we know are not working. So this is > no option. <snip> I see. I am happy we have a MIA team dealing with this. Bye, Joost -- Le premier qui, ayant enclos un terrain, s'avisa de dire « Ceci est à moi », et trouva des gens assez simples pour le croire [...] vous êtes perdus, si vous oubliez que les fruits sont à tous, et que la terre n'est à personne. --Jean-Jacques Rousseau, De l'Inégalité parmi les hommes, 1755
