On 2025-02-17 00:33:59 +0100, Chris Hofstaedtler wrote: > * Vincent Lefevre <vinc...@vinc17.net> [250217 00:28]: > > On 2025-02-16 23:56:43 +0100, Chris Hofstaedtler wrote: > > > * Michael Stone <mst...@debian.org> [250216 22:45]: > > > > On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 07:05:13PM +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > > > No, w(1) is broken (at least in sid). See the difference between > > > > > "who" and "w" with systemd 256.7-1, i.e. before the upgrade of > > > > > systemd that removed utmp support: > > > > > > > > That's because someone decided to suddenly remove an interface which has > > > > been used for decades without any kind of transition plan or > > > > replacement. > > > > > > Clearly there is a replacement, because the data is there: > > > > > > % w > > > 23:53:23 up 1 min, 2 users, load average: 0.06, 0.03, 0.00 > > > USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE JCPU PCPU WHAT > > > ch 192.168.64.1 23:53 1:24 0.00s 0.02s > > > sshd-session: ch [priv] > > > ch - 23:53 1:24 0.00s 0.04s > > > /usr/lib/systemd/systemd --user > > > > No data for xterm. Other terminals are affected too, such as > > GNOME Terminal. > > AFAIK this is expected. You should have a single entry for the X > session, if you started it from a session manager.
This means that it is no longer possible to get information that could be obtained previously: IDLE, JCPU, PCPU, WHAT associated with the terminal. Unless there is another tool to get such useful information, this is a regression. And what about non-X terminals, such as provided by GNU Screen? (That said, GNU Screen does not work in a consistent way in Debian/stable.) > Did you file a bug with mosh for investigation? Just done: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1096161 -- Vincent Lefèvre <vinc...@vinc17.net> - Web: <https://www.vinc17.net/> 100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: <https://www.vinc17.net/blog/> Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / Pascaline project (LIP, ENS-Lyon)
