On Tue, 6 Aug 2024 at 11:40, Matthew Vernon <matt...@debian.org> wrote: > > On 06/08/2024 11:22, Luca Boccassi wrote: > > On Tue, 6 Aug 2024 at 11:10, Matthew Vernon <matt...@debian.org> wrote: > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> On 06/08/2024 10:42, Luca Boccassi wrote: > >> > >>> This is not a hard technical problem with no known solution that we > >>> are asking for design guidance on. This is a trivial technical > >>> problem with a hard social conflict at its core. What we are really > >>> blocked on is that the current owner of os-release refuses to let us > >>> fix it. > >> This is an unfair and inaccurate summary. The policy question of "should > >> testing and unstable be differentiated by os-release" isn't > >> straightforward, and there isn't consensus that the answer should be > >> "yes", as you would like it to be. > > > > But in what way is it inaccurate? > > Your text says (at least as I read it) "the technical problem is easy, > but the os-release maintainer is preventing us from implementing the > otherwise-agreed solution". This is an accusation of poor conduct aimed > at the os-release maintainer.
It is not? It means what it says: the technical side is trivial, but there is a social disagreement on what the policy should be, hence the involvement of the CTTE to solve this conflict. If there was agreement then I wouldn't be here, no? Recognizing and expressing that there is a policy disagreement, resulting in a change being blocked, is not an accusation of any kind. > > And same question as I asked Sean earlier - by "consensus" here, do > > you mean that you want to see more people outside of TC members > > chiming in on the policy question? > > No. TC bugs are not popularity contests. My point is that your paragraph > I objected to was claiming that the os-release maintainer was stopping > "us" [presumably meaning Debian] from fixing the bug that os-release > does not differentiate between testing and unstable. No, I did not mean "Debian", I meant people who want to implement this change.